January 12, 20206 yr Hi guys, I am coming from i7-5820K OC to 4.5ghz with Quad DDR4 Memory. It is time for me to start getting the parts for the next upgrade. I am kinda confused with the new cpus from both camps. Way too many options. This time, I am even gonna go all high end as I need multiple M.2 Slots (each sim gets their own M.2 slot - I am aiming for 3 M.2 slots) - even if the motherboard has 2 M.2 (that is fine). The AMD systems can do like 5 M.2 - omg. I really want all these excellent features but which cpu helps these SIMS the most (this is why I hate legacy code in the sims - can never fully extract power properly) Question is which path i9-9900KS or AMD threadripper series - the only thing is that i9 clocks much higher than AMD threadripper Which way to go? What is disappointing is with DDR4 ram - the Intel systems for the above CPU mentioned have two way memory path and not quad path to fully maximize DDR4 - I am fine with it I guess. I just want more Power!!! lol Edited January 12, 20206 yr by Skywolf How I Evaluate Third Party Sim Addon Developers Refined P3Dv5.0 HF2 Settings Part1 (has MaddogX) and older thread Part 2 (has PMDG 747)
January 12, 20206 yr 25 minutes ago, Skywolf said: the only thing is that i9 clocks much higher than AMD threadripper There's your answer right there. P3D directly benefits from the fastest single-core performance you can manage for the all-important main thread. M.2 is a form factor, not an electrical interface. I think you're saying you want NVME (vs SATA) drives. All NVME drives are M.2, but not all M.2 drives are NVME--there are also SATA III M.2 drives (and slots). I think you'd be better off putting multiple sims on one or two larger SSDs than using separate discrete drives. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
January 12, 20206 yr Author Thanks @w6kd & @Rob_Ainscough Yes, I need all my sims on NVME drives. My current system has one M.2. It really helps on P3D and X-plane load times. I will look at that motherboard - thanks Yep - I can easily wait till April - will need to see how Intel makes 10nm CPUs Edited January 12, 20206 yr by Skywolf How I Evaluate Third Party Sim Addon Developers Refined P3Dv5.0 HF2 Settings Part1 (has MaddogX) and older thread Part 2 (has PMDG 747)
January 12, 20206 yr If you use X-Plane at all, with the imminent up-date to Vulkan, you may well benefit with the higher thread count of AMD. I use AMD now before the up-date and I'm more than a happy chappy! Phil
January 12, 20206 yr 44 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said: edited..... Food for thought, get ready for 1-2 PT of global terrain data in a home in the near future ... but definitely wait for the Intel 10nm to see how it performs. Cheers, Rob. Rob -- is this a hint about FS2020? :) Gigabyte x670 Aorus Elite AX MB; AMD 7800X3D CPU; Deepcool LT520 AIO Cooler; 64 Gb G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO DDR5 6000; Win11 Pro; P3D V5.4; 1 Samsung 990 2Tb NVMe SSD: 1 Crucial 4Tb MX500 SATA SSD; 1 Samsung 860 1Tb SSD; Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 1080ti 11Gb VRAM; Toshiba 43" LED TV @ 4k; Honeycomb Bravo.
January 12, 20206 yr 1 hour ago, Rob_Ainscough said: NVMe is definitely a good option, but I've found no difference in performance and/or load times using 9900K on any SSD/M.2/RAM Cache that can sustain 400MB/sec or higher. Maybe that will change when CPU's and memory sub-systems get faster. Ditto on that. Beyond a point, I think P3D is limited instead by the speed at which it processes the reams of data accessed during startup (e.g. fusion of mesh/textures/vector data) and not by storage throughput, and my experience supports the theory that currently a decent SATA III SSD can exceed that threshold handily. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
January 13, 20206 yr 20 hours ago, Rob_Ainscough said: If you can wait, Intel's 10nm CPUs (6,8,10 core) are supposed to arrive early 2020 (so before April is my guess). @Rob_Ainscough Thanks for the info. I thought Intel 10nm would not arrive that early. Can you link some info where I could read up more on that subject. FlyHirundo Rudder Pedal and Yoke Designed and manufactured in Switzerland Email: [email protected] Website: under construction
January 13, 20206 yr The most recent semi-fake news: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/leaked-intel-six-core-cpu-reveals-a-new-architecture-coming-soon
January 14, 20206 yr We could see the 400 series chipset this year at the E3 show possibly Z490 MB. Raymond Fry.
January 14, 20206 yr 22 hours ago, Rob_Ainscough said: This is one reference (dated Nov 2019): https://wccftech.com/intel-10nm-desktop-cpus-arriving-early-2020/ I think AMD have forced Intel to change their plans a little. About all that is certain is there will be a "Lake" involved 🙂 Cheers, Rob. EDIT: we also have nVidia Ampere GPUs due out before April EDIT: oh, and DDR5 motherboards this year (DDR5 6000Mhz) Let's just pray that the "Lake" part doesn't change to "Net" anytime soon Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
January 14, 20206 yr https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/core-i9-10990xe-processor-spottedhas-22-cores-and-44-threads.html Raymond Fry.
January 14, 20206 yr Commercial Member 380W TDP. Wow. Cheers! Luke Kolin I make simFDR, the most advanced flight data recorder for FSX, Prepar3D and X-Plane.
January 15, 20206 yr This is worth reading as it addresses what's happening in the semiconductor industry: https://spectrum.ieee.org/nanoclast/semiconductors/devices/what-globalfoundries-retreat-really-means
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