On 3/6/2020 at 5:46 PM, aleex said:

 

That’s old footage 

On 3/6/2020 at 4:42 PM, nikita said:

Eh, for many people in this forum X-Plane and P3D are the only experience they've ever had with anything remotely resembling a videogame, i'm not surprised they're completely out of the loop with modern features and standards. We just need to bring them up to speed occasionally.

A good game has hardly anything to do with the simulation of a camera telephoto lens. Or even with the quality of graphics. I've played, these recent months, with two excellent games which have no graphics to talk about. To plagiarize a saying of the Real Estate industry, there are three reasons why a game is a good game : gameplay, gameplay and gameplay. Not the the ability to shot slick captures. And that applies, mutatis mutandis, to flight simulation.

Look at the Steam home page. The game industry is cranking out always the same killing games where the differential factor is these "modern features and standards" to hid the absence of imagination in designing the gameplay. Game of thrones look-alike, zombies, the umpteenth version of Call of Duty.  I've nothing against a little killing I enjoyed my Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout series etc. No blurry backgrounds or God rays or whatever "modern features and standards" but good gameplay.

Now about simmers having no experience in games, I vividly remember that I bought the same day in the same shop downtown Paris, both FS1 and Roberta Williams Mystery House, 40 years ago…  The generation which made flight simulation what it is also made video gaming what it is. We know a littler bit about gaming, my friend 😋, for the good and the less good, I might add.

 

49 minutes ago, domkle said:

The generation which made flight simulation what it is also made video gaming what it is. We know a littler bit about gaming, my friend 😋, for the good and the less good, I might add.

He was clearly refering to the graphics advancements in gaming industry tho. 😄 Yes, a good game is not (solely) defined by the graphics. But they can play a role as well. That's highly subjective.

For example "The vanishing of Ethan Carter" represents game with a strong focus on storytelling and riddle solving, yet it would not be able to deliver the unique atmosphere without decent graphics, capturing that atumn mood.

Edited March 8, 20206 yr by tweekz

2 hours ago, tweekz said:

.Yes, a good game is not (solely) defined by the graphics. But they can play a role as well.

Agreed. Its a complex alchemy and graphics can be an important part of a gameplay. It is for flight simulation but I doubt that the DoF has its place in this kind of game..  

A flight simulation such as MSFS will be a screenshot factory - so being able to play with DoF definitely has its place here.

Video games:  Some days ya just gotta blow stuff up.

The best fun I've ever had on a computer was playing multiplayer Quake against my 15 year old son.  There was much yelling.  I had to explain to my wife that the rude language was actually terms of endearment.

Hook

Edited March 8, 20206 yr by LHookins

Terms of endearment

Ha ha ha. For the son, the wife or the boy?

I am sure the "rude" language explanation went down better with the boy than with the mom

Sorry, son and boy the same, prefer to call it son.

Aich

4 hours ago, domkle said:

Agreed. Its a complex alchemy and graphics can be an important part of a gameplay. It is for flight simulation but I doubt that the DoF has its place in this kind of game..  

I usually turn that feature off nearly everywhere I find it. 😄 Same with motion blur and stuff like that. Except maybe for some artistic games.

  

1 hour ago, LHookins said:

The best fun I've ever had on a computer was playing multiplayer Quake against my 15 year old son.

Oh, how much I miss the old Quake days... 😞

Edited March 8, 20206 yr by tweekz

1 hour ago, ILSFREAK said:

Terms of endearment

Ha ha ha. For the son, the wife or the boy?

I am sure the "rude" language explanation went down better with the boy than with the mom

My wife was a little dismayed by some of the things were were calling each other. 😄  My son was calling me all the same things.  It's not like we were going to be saying, "Oh.  Good kill."

After all, this is a family where the males have belching (and, uh, "other") contests (which included the family boxer dog who could usually outdo us all).

Not all video games are like that.  Minecraft is popular.  The Sims franchise (which my son and his wife played).  My son and I shared a game of the original XCom, giving each other updates as we passed the game back and forth.  I loved to watch him play Grand Theft Auto.  I never got him interested in flight simulation though.

Hook

6 hours ago, divide said:

A flight simulation such as MSFS will be a screenshot factory - so being able to play with DoF definitely has its place here.

I couldn't agree more. I'm already using the image of the Caravan over the waves (a cropped version of it) as my desktop wallpaper on my MacBook Pro. Loving the shallow DoF for this very reason.

4 hours ago, LHookins said:

 Not all video games are like that.  Minecraft is popular.  The Sims franchise (which my son and his wife played).  My son and I shared a game of the original XCom, giving each other updates as we passed the game back and forth.  I loved to watch him play Grand Theft Auto.  I never got him interested in flight simulation though.

Hook

Yeah when people don't understand things they tend to grind things down to stereotypes. Just because certain types of games end up being popular, doesn't mean that's all there is. Being a PlayStation gamer has opened me up to all sorts of genres with beautiful games heavily focused on stories while providing rich gameplay.

I have a feeling making the new God of War, with it's one take camera system was a bigger headache for Sony Santa Monica than MSFS is for Asobo. This in no way diminishes what Asobo is doing by any means tho. 

Now I have to find that interview lol

On 3/5/2020 at 10:36 PM, Javiz said:

Could that be why the sea looks blurry ?  If that's true it would be truly amazing but i still can't believe it...

Thanks for the tantalizing comment !  😉

There are 2 videos on youtube showing the big waves in action.

One in the airport video and one in the sound video.

On 3/5/2020 at 12:27 PM, Kopteeni said:

I feel like they turned up the heat with this batch of screenshots. Really impressive how they're bringing the world alive in all its variety. I would love to see that restless sea as a video clip.

There are 2 videos showing water with big waves.

Here is one: check 3:13

 

1 hour ago, BijanStudio said:

There are 2 videos showing water with big waves.

Here is one: check 3:13

Well, I'll be darned. Even after watching all of the videos several times it seems that there's still stuff I've missed. Thanks!

That water looks convincing. I'm happy we aren't getting the same 2d water treatment anymore. Asobo is not cutting corners here either.

Edited March 8, 20206 yr by n4gix
Removed quoted video. It only needs to be posted ONCE.