P3D v5 is DX12

[Cruachan 705]

On 4/3/2020 at 2:48 PM, DJJose said:

Don't know if it will fix the pauses or stutters. XP 11.50 with Vulkan enabled is silky smooth.

Assuming shaders are responsible, then yes.....and Austin explains why in this video:

https://youtu.be/_D9YZLapnCw

Mike

 

Edited April 5, 2020 by Cruachan

[Pete Dowson 558]

2 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

So even with a complex aircraft the process is incredibly quick. And this is with P3D v3.4 - a 32-bit sim. I don't notice any degredation in v4 either with the PMDG737-800.

I think this probably depends on your specific system. These M.2 drives are incredibly quick! 😉

Pete

[Benjamin J 751]

4 hours ago, Pete Dowson said:

I should remind you, then, that if these are noticeable it is usually because you are using a sophisticated add-on aircraft like those from PMDG and FSL, which actually freeze the sim whilst assembling and writing the files they use to record the complete state of the cockpit and systems.

The only part FSUIPC's Autosave plays is sending the request to SimConnect to save a flight.  That's the same function you can operate by the ; key (unless reassigned). FSUIPC is just saving you entering the name for the saved flight and removing the oldest saved file.

There is no way of performing an Autosave without saving data to disk. That's what it is!

Pete

If it's worth anything, I'd just say I have not noticed any particular pauses. I have FSUIPC auto-save every 15 minutes or so.

As for P3Dv5, this is pretty exciting. It sounds like the use of DX12 might just bring enough workload to the GPU where it's more than just 30-50% engaged. I have almost never seen my GPU max out, and the once or twice it did was always because of massive amounts of clouds. So here's hoping DX12 can ease the workload of the CPU, thus producing better FPS, and finally get my GPU to do the work it so clearly has a capacity for. Do I expect a smooth ride into JFK or LAX? Hell no - but an improvement from a sim-stopping slideshow? Perhaps. I like to temper my expectations, just in case.

[Ray Proudfoot 9,039]

31 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said:

I think this probably depends on your specific system. These M.2 drives are incredibly quick! 😉

Pete

Indeed they are and given @ideoplastichas one it’s odd.

[simfan1983 185]

I have a fast M.2 drive and I always get a very short pause when FSUIPC autosaves with FSLabs and PMDG aircraft.

[GSalden 4,700]

Hopefully the Clouds - AA issue will be solved too.

[Luke 782]

6 hours ago, Pete Dowson said:

I should remind you, then, that if these are noticeable it is usually because you are using a sophisticated add-on aircraft like those from PMDG and FSL, which actually freeze the sim whilst assembling and writing the files they use to record the complete state of the cockpit and systems.

The panel state is less than 100K, as is the flight files - any modern drive can write that in a period of time not visible to the naked eye, and CPUs can assemble that data even faster.

I am able to toggle this condition on and off at will, simply by adjusting my anti-virus exclusions.

Cheers!

[essex 1]

On 4/4/2020 at 8:06 PM, Rob_Ainscough said:

I assume you mean "streaming" PR environment?  Unless you have 2 PT (or 2000 TB) of available disk space and an extremely fast download connection?

You already have that ability with either Tile Proxy or Ortho4P3D/XP.

This may develop into another option.
https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/import-google-maps-3d-objects.446870/

[jabloomf1230 2,445]

55 minutes ago, essex said:

This may develop into another option.
https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/import-google-maps-3d-objects.446870/

Again, that's not streaming either. If you look at the screen captures on FSDeveloper you see that the area covered by the downloaded models and textures is limited to the center of the view. The rest of the buildings are default objects and textures. Rob's point is that no one is going to do this for the entire globe and put it on their local PC. At least not an existing PC. 

[him225 51]

10 hours ago, Luke said:

The panel state is less than 100K, as is the flight files - any modern drive can write that in a period of time not visible to the naked eye, and CPUs can assemble that data even faster.

I am able to toggle this condition on and off at will, simply by adjusting my anti-virus exclusions.

Cheers!

Though the antivirus exclusion for the save file folders addresses the pauses, if you check the FSL panel states they are a whopping 25mb per save!! I have turned off the autosave to reduce the writes on my SSD as a result.

[Pete Dowson 558]

14 hours ago, Luke said:

The panel state is less than 100K, as is the flight files - any modern drive can write that in a period of time not visible to the naked eye, and CPUs can assemble that data even faster.

Nice. So why do PMDG aircraft cause stutters when they save their data? Are they doing it deliberately?

All FSUIPC does is make one call to SimConnect to request a flight is saved, and possibly one file deletion to maintain the cycle.

Pete

 

[JoeFackel 760]

23 hours ago, Cruachan said:

Assuming shaders are responsible, then yes.....and Austin explains why in this video:

https://youtu.be/_D9YZLapnCw

Mike

 

I'm not an XP guy but i found that video entertaining and informative for an non-coding word not allowed like me 🙂

Would like that from other developers too.

[abandoned account 171]

OMG, 6 pages about this "confirmed information" and all the "facts" that comes with it. And the source is nothing more than a vague changelog entry from a 3rd party company.

If LM had a new major release that was close to release and they wanted us to know about it, they would tell us. If they had something under development that they wouldn't want to tell us yet, the NDA would make all 3rd party developers keep quiet.

Now when X-plane has gone Vulkan, Aerofly has gone Vulkan, and MSFS2020 is getting closer to a release, I'm pretty sure that if LM had something big coming up, they would have let us know by now to make sure we don't leave them. I haven't even seen anything that even tells us that it's still being developed at all. To be able to compete with the others they would have to present something really huge and right now.

Personally I don't see it happening, although I know many people are financially and emotionally invested in P3D and will defend it till the end.

 

[G-RFRY 1,728]

7 minutes ago, tolip2 said:

OMG, 6 pages about this "confirmed information" and all the "facts" that comes with it. And the source is nothing more than a vague changelog entry from a 3rd party company.

If LM had a new major release that was close to release and they wanted us to know about it, they would tell us. If they had something under development that they wouldn't want to tell us yet, the NDA would make all 3rd party developers keep quiet.

Now when X-plane has gone Vulkan, Aerofly has gone Vulkan, and MSFS2020 is getting closer to a release, I'm pretty sure that if LM had something big coming up, they would have let us know by now to make sure we don't leave them. I haven't even seen anything that even tells us that it's still being developed at all. To be able to compete with the others they would have to present something really huge and right now.

Personally I don't see it happening, although I know many people are financially and emotionally invested in P3D and will defend it till the end.

 

Yes and we now everything about MSFS confirmed information 6 months of speculation.

[JoeFackel 760]

10 minutes ago, tolip2 said:

If LM had a new major release that was close to release and they wanted us to know about it, they would tell us.

Uhm ... nope. They have never done that and i'm sure they won't do it this time. Every release (beside Hot fixes) came out of nowhere in the last years.

They only hint we had was when Pete Dowson has gone on holiday, then you had an 98,567% chance that the next release will happen in a few days.