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Thrue Sky strongly squanders FPS. (25-30%) Is it for everyone?

Not for me.. you need to check what this is the case for you.. another point it is called Enhanced Atmospherics.. this is because it enables not only TrueSky but also other atmospherics features / shaders.

I would watch out for the "shadows casting" settings, enabling long distances of this + all their casting settings using Enhanced Atmospherics will push many system over the limit..

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4 minutes ago, BMW969 said:

TrueSky strongly squanders FPS. (25-30%) Is it for everyone?

Well. It depends on some settings within the EA section. But below the line, yes it costs me some FPS too. Ca. 10 to 15 % I would assume (not exactly tested but just switched a couple of times in the sim and saw an impact:

  • Cloud Resolution have FPS impact. Especially when switching from Medium to High/Ultra. Medium does look very good to me and is somehow more FPS friendly on my rig
  • Interestingly the visibility range unlimited has moderate FPS impact. Set the range to 50Miles or lower (for all visibilty layers!) has a positive influence to on my setup 
  • Also the Water (wich is not related to Truesky, I know ;-)) has some impact when switching between High and Ultra. The Waves, wich will come on Ultra, must be the source

And I have a pretty powerful setup:

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1 hour ago, BMW969 said:

TrueSky strongly squanders FPS. (25-30%) Is it for everyone?

My guess (and hope 😉) is, that the performance impact of TruSky will decrease with the further evolution of the related DX12 support, GPU Driver and algorythm behind all this. Because an RTX 20something GPU schould easily cope with the shading, volumetric and raytracing demands of this new feature, it´s not optimized enough yet, but will. Honestly i haven´t notice performance decrease by the use of it in my setup, but this could also depend on, that my P3D has not to handle any controllers, nor gauges or cockpits etc, jut only the "world outside"

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1 hour ago, BMW969 said:

TrueSky strongly squanders FPS. (25-30%) Is it for everyone?

My guess (and hope 😉) is, that the performance impact of TruSky will decrease with the further evolution of the related DX12 support, GPU Driver and algorythm behind all this. Because an RTX 20something GPU schould easily cope with the shading, volumetric and raytracing demands of this new feature, it´s not optimized enough yet, but will. Honestly i haven´t notice performance decrease by the use of it in my setup, but this could also depend on, that my P3D has not to handle any controllers, nor gauges or cockpits etc, jut only the "world outside"


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1 hour ago, BMW969 said:

TrueSky strongly squanders FPS. (25-30%) Is it for everyone?

My guess (and hope 😉) is, that the performance impact of TruSky will decrease with the further evolution of the related DX12 support, GPU Driver and algorythm behind all this. Because an RTX 20something GPU schould easily cope with the shading, volumetric and raytracing demands of this new feature, it´s not optimized enough yet, but will. Honestly i haven´t notice performance decrease by the use of it in my setup, but this could also depend on, that my P3D has not to handle any controllers, nor gauges or cockpits etc, jut only the "world outside"


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1 hour ago, BMW969 said:

TrueSky strongly squanders FPS. (25-30%) Is it for everyone?

Whose system?  Ain't happening here...:)

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4 minutes ago, BerndB said:

Honestly i haven´t notice performance decrease by the use of it in my setup, but this could also depend on, that my P3D has not to handle any controllers, nor gauges or cockpits etc, jut only the "world outside"

Please show the FPS of the same place with TrueSky turned on and off


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6 minutes ago, BMW969 said:

Please show the FPS of the same place with TrueSky turned on and off

My P3D is locked to 30 FPS and stays on 30 with or without TrueSky. Anything else doesn´t really matter for me as long as i have no stutters.

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26 minutes ago, BerndB said:

My P3D is locked to 30 FPS and stays on 30 with or without TrueSky. Anything else doesn´t really matter for me as long as i have no stutters.

And monitor Full HD? 

I am talking about a significant difference in performance.. And cutting off the FPS is not a tricky business. 

I like to have a smooth picture at 50-60 FPS on a 4K monitor. 30 FPS is not enough for me when I turn my head in the cab.

Here is my test

Of course, at Heathrow  on a NGSu 737, the numbers are half as small ))

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@BMW969 Trusky does hit the gpu quite hard, that drop seems normal based on my experience.

 

Edit: Try reducing gpu heavy features, like SSAA.

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Hi,

Changing subject slightly, is there any expected impact do you think on the support of the weather radar found in the cockpits of PMDG products for example with this new release of ASP3D?

Not sure how much this is redesign or evolution of the previous AS product?

 

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1 hour ago, BMW969 said:

And monitor Full HD? 

I am talking about a significant difference in performance.. And cutting off the FPS is not a tricky business. 

I like to have a smooth picture at 50-60 FPS on a 4K monitor. 30 FPS is not enough for me when I turn my head in the cab.

Here is my test

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Have you tried turning the cloud resolution down to Medium for Enhanced Atmospherics? Makes a significant performance difference for little visual difference,

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Looking forward to this version, it seems to be a PERFECT moment to install ActiveSky on a client PC as it gets rid of SIMCONNECT for Client-Server use.


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18 minutes ago, Prpn said:

Have you tried turning the cloud resolution down to Medium for Enhanced Atmospherics? Makes a significant performance difference for little visual difference,

I did not use cloudy weather. I'm waiting ActiveSky


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True Sky looks much more realistic on these comparison shots...

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too much, too soon....

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