2 hours ago, Wobbie said:

So, to confirm, all the airports will be very detailed, and the Standard version will have 30 super detailed, Deluxe with 35 super detailed & Premium with 40 super detailed. It has been musunderstood that these are the only airports that will be in MSFS. These are only the super detailed. All the others will be there, not in such detail, giving the payware developers a large market to develop.Well played to create a market for the add-on guys.

There's three tiers of airports. Hand-crafted, payware quality airports are the highest. Then you have the 80 airports that they took special care with but didn't create special assets for. Then you have the ones they did passes over placing stock buildings over orthos and correcting taxiways, runways, etc.

 

22 minutes ago, mtan002 said:

Any one knows what the final installed disk size is, let's say the premium version?

Cheers

 

10 x the capacity of the DVDs (9.4GB) comes to 94GB

4 hours ago, Wobbie said:

So, to confirm, all the airports will be very detailed...

37,000 “very detailed” airports. Really? Do you have a link for that?

I do, somewhere, I actually could not be bothered to try look amongst the links I've saved. 

There's more to life than being picky over how many airports there are in a game. If you are so concerned, or if it a deal breaker if you will buy the game or not.. Spend some time having a look yourself. Do not doubt, young Padawan! 

@Wobbie, I assume your last post was directed at me. That’s quite a statement to make if you can’t back it up with evidence. I’d be very surprised if any of the 37,000 airports that don’t appear in the enhanced categories are any more detailed than those in ESP.

I will interject with a hopefully informative video from our friend Mr Ant.....

 

Edited July 18, 20205 yr by HiFlyer

32 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

@Wobbie, I assume your last post was directed at me. That’s quite a statement to make if you can’t back it up with evidence. I’d be very surprised if any of the 37,000 airports that don’t appear in the enhanced categories are any more detailed than those in ESP.

ESP’s default airports are awful and highly inaccurate. As I said above and ASOBO showed, the 37K airports use generic building blocks on top of ortho footprints. 

26 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

@Wobbie, I assume your last post was directed at me. That’s quite a statement to make if you can’t back it up with evidence. I’d be very surprised if any of the 37,000 airports that don’t appear in the enhanced categories are any more detailed than those in ESP.

I can't go into detail, but while it should be evident you won't get 37,000 airports as detailed as ORBX LOWI or CYSE they are better indeed. Notably, because of the photoreal background you can expect all of them fitting seamlessly into the surrounding instead of sitting on a dull polygon cut off from the landscape. 

Kind regards, Michael

1 minute ago, bonchie said:

ESP’s default airports are awful and highly inaccurate. As I said above and ASOBO showed, the 37K airports use generic building blocks on top of ortho footprints. 

Your first sentence is subjective. Others may be quite happy with them as I was when flying to many default airports in P3Dv4.

Until I can see an example of an airport I’m familiar with like EGCC Manchester I’ll reserve judgement.

14 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

I will interject with a hopefully informative video from our friend Mr Ant.....

Anyone can edit airports and MSFS includes this editor built-in, just like we see in the video? 🤔

If so that's great! 

So people can edit airports and create their own detailed versions of the generic airports?

I wonder if people can publish their free airports to the market place so that others can download them for free....that would be very good! 👍

1 minute ago, MatthewS said:

Anyone can edit airports and MSFS includes this editor built-in, just like we see in the video? 🤔

Not exactly. It's a fairly Open Secret that Microsoft has been paying people all over the world to manually use an editor on the 37000 airports that have been so prominently mentioned.

Whether the SDK will allow others besides Developers to do the same is unknown, at least to me.

1 minute ago, pmb said:

I can't go into detail, but while it should be evident you won't get 37,000 airports as detailed as ORBX LOWI or CYSE they are better indeed. Notably, because of the photoreal background you can expect all of them fitting seamlessly into the surrounding instead of sitting on a dull polygon cut off from the landscape. 

Kind regards, Michael

Michael, when airports are described as “very detailed” that is what I expect to see. Generic buildings doesn’t appear to match that description. I accept they may fit in with the surrounding area when viewed from above but I’m more interested in how close they are to the actual airports.

Anyway, there’s no point me debating this further. I’ll await the screenshots and judge them myself.

4 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

Not exactly. It's a fairly Open Secret that Microsoft has been paying people all over the world to manually use an editor on the 37000 airports that have been so prominently mentioned.

Whether the SDK will allow others besides Developers to do the same is unknown, at least to me.

Oh, well that would "suck" if they keep the editor to themselves. 👎

Edited July 18, 20205 yr by MatthewS

1 hour ago, HiFlyer said:

It's a fairly Open Secret that Microsoft has been paying people all over the world to manually use an editor on the 37000 airports that have been so prominently mentioned.

So open that i've never heard of it?

2 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

@Wobbie, I assume your last post was directed at me. That’s quite a statement to make if you can’t back it up with evidence. I’d be very surprised if any of the 37,000 airports that don’t appear in the enhanced categories are any more detailed than those in ESP.

I have some exact quotes here from the Airports video that speak to the level that was gone to with 'manually edited' airports:

 "All the airports in the world, including 37k 'manually edited' airports."

"This technique involves editing each airport manually which means particular attention to detail has been given to every single one of them."
 - 'Airports are edited using real aerials and satellite images'
 - 'Logical elements are traced straight from the Bing Map images'
 - 'According to the observed materials on Bing aerials, we need surfaces-it can be grass, concrete, dirt etc.'
 - 'This process allows us to capture the real identity of the runway and to apply accurate materials onto it.'
 - 'Of course, it leads to different behaviour, impacting the landing gear grip, for instance.'
 - 'The final part is the post processing. These steps are automatically performed by our Algorithms.'

The question will be does the above qualify as 'very detailed' to someone but those are the exact words from Asobo, concerning those 37,000 manually updated airports.