2 minutes ago, Joyal said:

What does search engine have to do with mapping tech? 

Nothing at all? I was responding directly to the article...

“The degree of freedom produces an intellectual effect that is at first a bit disorienting — perhaps akin to the first time you realized you could justtype a question into Google and get an answer.”

 

It’s essentially comparing the magnitude of the sim’s technology and power to the magnitude of Google’s search engine, which I would argue is not equal.

7 minutes ago, Virtual-Chris said:

What’s holding them back exactly?

Nothing, they are too busy killing a messaging app then making a new one. 

Just now, FlyingInACessna said:

Nothing at all? I was responding directly to the article...

“The degree of freedom produces an intellectual effect that is at first a bit disorienting — perhaps akin to the first time you realized you could justtype a question into Google and get an answer.”

 

It’s essentially comparing the magnitude of the sim’s technology and power to the magnitude of Google’s search engine, which I would argue is not equal.

Microsoft already has a search engine and an ad network and half a Trillion+ in market cap. And Google isn't that great anymore. Now results are what they think you are looking for rather than what you search. Personally I've switched over completely to DuckDuckGo. 

And in terms of Business that is where Microsoft excels, no pun intended. Only real threat AWS faces is Azure and they are growing so aggressively even with 4 year lag to AWS.

 

FS2020 is really a great tech demo showing of what they are capable of and what their infrastructure is capable of.

 

1 hour ago, Cryzin said:

Have you tried it? It's nowhere closer to a stimulator. 

 

1 hour ago, Mgard78 said:

No matter how good the sim turns out to be, I don't think anyone will be in such awe as what google brings to your fingertips...

If you stick your fingertips into a power socket whilst using it, I'm sure it will be very much a stimulator!😉

Amazon and Google both have the infrastructure and engineers to do what MS is doing. I highly doubt it’s a space they care much about. 

And Google can recreate the world better than MS ever could dream of. I worked on an AR product that used Google data to do something very similar to what MS has done (albeit this was a PoC in a much smaller scale). The results were magnitude better than what MS is offering.

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Cryzin said:

What does search engine have to do with mapping tech? 

🤣. Nothing, nothing... 
 

 

I don't know why anyone not making a flight simulator that competes with MSFS should be nervous. 😄 

It's just another game, after all.  MSFS is gonna be a big one, but it won't cut into the sales of other genres.

Note:  "Game" for business terms.  "Flight simulator" for us.  Same meaning, different words.

Hook

5 hours ago, Lotharen said:

Totally agree with this. They have to take this if more than one direction. Possibly a train sim or something else entirely. 

maybe some kinda risk game, conquer the earth..lol

all kind of military simulation games. etc etc, lets hope....

The Google search engine front end is one of the most sophisticated pieces of AI there is.  

I'm hoping for a partnership between Lockheed Martin and Google to make a P3Dv6 with streaming scenery that will be far beyond what MSFS has.  I suspect Google would do it just to thumb their noses at Bing.

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2 hours ago, langly said:

I worked on an AR product that used Google data to do something very similar to what MS has done (albeit this was a PoC in a much smaller scale). The results were magnitude better than what MS is offering.

Small scale PoC would allow for better results as there's far fewer tradeoffs to be made. When you factor in all the flight simulation complexity that has to be performed on top of terrain rendering and tie that into your userbases' typical PC capabilities you'd likely end up in more or less the same space that MS/Asobo have landed in. 

Just now, LHookins said:

I don't know why anyone not making a flight simulator that competes with MSFS should be nervous. 😄 

It's just another game, after all.  MSFS is gonna be a big one, but it won't cut into the sales of other genres.

Note:  "Game" for business terms.  "Flight simulator" for us.  Same meaning, different words.

Hook

I don’t know about anybody getting nervous but the Asobo Project (nice title for a Scifi book don’t you think ?) sets up the ground for much more than a game for sure.

1 hour ago, LHookins said:

The Google search engine front end is one of the most sophisticated pieces of AI there is.  

I'm hoping for a partnership between Lockheed Martin and Google to make a P3Dv6 with streaming scenery that will be far beyond what MSFS has.  I suspect Google would do it just to thumb their noses at Bing.

Hook

I don`t think Google are interested not a big enough market, gamers will buy in then leave when the next big thing comes along, total sales do not take account of active simmers the highest in steam not that big.

PS Google and Apple have just kicked Fortnite off there Platform for allowing people to buy direct without giving them 30%

Edited August 17, 20205 yr by G-RFRY

Just to make things clear:

"What makes the new Flight so revolutionary is that it's simply the most detailed and realistic model of Earth yet created."

Google Earth has much more terrain detail, and by far much more photogrammetry. I don`t know if Google Earth was the first one, but Bing Maps was a total clone of Earth. Now they even claim that they are better, what is defenately not true.

"Phil Spencer, Microsoft's head of Xbox, made some waves when he said that his company's true competitors in interactive entertainment were no longer traditional gaming rivals Sony and Nintendo,
 but rather Big Tech rivals Amazon and Google"

The man got his eyes for the important things of the future:
Gaming - Google and Amazon, especially Amazon will solely focus on .. Gaming.

"Neumann went to Switzerland to meet with some hardcore weather nerds..."
Nice that they find the right words to express themselves. They are trying to explain the nature of air by taking batteries, lot`s of batteries.

Best way to go.

I have seen recently this commercial in YouTube:

Yes Microsoft, please focus on gaming and win the gaming fight against Google and Amazon.

1 hour ago, LHookins said:

I don't know why anyone not making a flight simulator that competes with MSFS should be nervous. 😄 

It's just another game, after all.  MSFS is gonna be a big one, but it won't cut into the sales of other genres.

People also refer to its potential as real world counterpart. Sure, this comparison is at hands, but to be honest, if you look closely those AI generated cities will lose almost every battle to the far, far superior amount of photgrammetry cities on Google Earth.

It seems that so many of us have been simulating for so long that we have adopted a living in a "dream world" mentality. 😀

Most people could not care less about FS2020. They are too busy dealing with a pandemic. If a simmer thinks that FS2020 is going to turn gamers into certified pilots, when the gamer goes to their local airport to do the discovery flight, after they see the cost of getting their certificate, that's where it ends.

Finally, those with money will use their private jets to fly anywhere in the world that they want to go and explore the world for real.

Google & Amazon have nothing to be nervous about and should not even be in this conversation.

Just for fun!