August 19, 20205 yr Are radio/TV transmission towers not in the database? I just did a short night VFR local flight over an area which should have had a tower with a flashing light. I did not find it. Towers can be significant hazards as well as landmarks for flight. These structures appear on VFR section maps. I will be a little disappointed If they are not included at some point.
August 19, 20205 yr I've seen a couple towers and wind turbines so far in my flying. FSX Gold SP2 (FSGen + GEX + UTX + REX) --- XP10 / XP11 --- MSFS 2020 Intel i5-7500 CPU @ 3.40GHz / 16GB / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo / MFG Crosswind v3
August 19, 20205 yr I think they do not have an obstacle database.... I mean yes I've seen wind turbines...but no cell phone towers, tv/radio antennas. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
August 19, 20205 yr Everything that was in hazards.bgl in P3D appears to be gone. I used radio towers extensively as landmarks during VFR flight. Hook Larry Hookins Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of EarthAnd danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
August 19, 20205 yr MSFS has plenty of wind turbines in locations where they actually exist, but no antenna towers. I have heard there may be plans to bring an obstacle database to the sim eventually, but that is not confirmed. P3DV5 has gone overboard in the opposite direction, with way too much content in the obstacle database, including light poles and other objects which are really not actual hazards to air navigation. It wouldn’t be a problem but for the fact that anything in the database appears to grow into narrow spikes hundreds of feet tall when viewed from high altitude, which can make the sim world look like a pincushion. Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
August 20, 20205 yr That's a bit of a shame the radio/TV towers are not there yet, hopefully some day MS will add these in - very important for VFR navigation - they are on the aviation charts. Also miss the water towers...
August 20, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, KERNEL32 said: Also miss the water towers... I noticed this as well earlier today. I would file a bug report as they show on Bing "3d" maps, I would think that the sim should have them as well. I filed but the more who do will make some noise. Tom "I just wanna tell you both: good luck. We're all counting on you."
August 20, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, jrboddie1 said: Power plant smokestacks are also not rendered (at least in rural areas). I was actually just going to post this. The local nuclear power plant that's been a staple of my flight sim scenery is not there. It just doesn't feel right despite the otherwise gorgeous scenery.
August 20, 20205 yr 12 hours ago, KERNEL32 said: Also miss the water towers... I saw several extruded via photogrammetry on my recent flight this morning. Your graphics settings may be too low, altho I also agree these should be generic actual 3D objects in a hazards database Drew Sikora Staff Blog Founder/Designer, MSE Airports
August 20, 20205 yr Outside of photogrammetry areas there are no obstacles other than windmills. They have said that integrating a full obstacle database is in the plans. Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
August 20, 20205 yr This was mentioned as being part of the world updates. Just gotta give it time. I don't think they can just use an obstacle database because they have to make sure it lines up with the orthos.
August 20, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, bonchie said: This was mentioned as being part of the world updates. Just gotta give it time. I don't think they can just use an obstacle database because they have to make sure it lines up with the orthos. This +1... I do think it is kind of funny - the big microwave tower about a 1/4-mile from my house is not depicted, but the house right behind mine on my block which has solar panels on their roof actually also has solar panels on their roof in the sim as well! So whether you have solar panels on your house or not seems to be in the Bing database somehow. - Kevin Windows 11 / Ryzen 7 9800X3D / MSI RTX-4080 Super 16G Ventus 3X / Gigabyte B850 Aorus Elite WiFi 7 / Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro / 64GB Lexar ARES Gen2 RGB DDR5 6000Mhz CL30 RAM / Dell Alienware AW3418DW WQHD 3440x1440 GSync / Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 2TB (OS) & 860 EVO 4TB SDD / WD Caviar Black 4TB HDD / EVGA Supernova 850 G5 PSU / Be Quiet Light Base 600 LX case / Virpil Warbird base with Constellation Alpha grip / MFG Crosswind rudder pedals / Virtual-Fly TQ6+ throttle quadrant / Winwing Orion HOTAS F-18 Throttle / Virpil TCS+ collective base with Hawk-60 grip / Saitek Trim Wheel / Saitek Radio and Switch Panels / Winwing Combat Ready Panel / Tobii 5
August 20, 20205 yr This is exactly the kind of scenery that 3rd part developers can provide. We could have many different tower types in their correct locations all over the world. ORBX, are you listening? Dave Simulator: P3Dv6.1 System Specs: Intel i7 13700K CPU, MSI Mag Z790 Tomahawk Motherboard, 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Video Card, 3x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2 2280 SSDs, Windows 11 Home OS My website for P3D stuff: https://sites.google.com/view/thep3dfiles/home
August 20, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, PurdueKev said: This +1... I do think it is kind of funny - the big microwave tower about a 1/4-mile from my house is not depicted, but the house right behind mine on my block which has solar panels on their roof actually also has solar panels on their roof in the sim as well! So whether you have solar panels on your house or not seems to be in the Bing database somehow. It's reading it from the aerial image. It can also spot satellite dishes sometimes. Towers are tougher I think because I bet the AI reads them as solid buildings a lot of the time from the top-down view. Edited August 20, 20205 yr by bonchie
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