It does look stunning in the video and screenshots but it's definitely "Cadillac" scenery for a comparably-equipped system, at least for now. I have a mix of old and new (i7-4790, 32G RAM, RTX 2070 SUPER) and have it tweaked to the best of my abilities to maintain a smooth 30FPS+ just about everywhere in MFS. But no sooner do I point the nose in the direction of this scenery, let alone get close to it, does my FPS drop to 10-15FPS.

Hopefully, it will be optimized or maybe toned down a bit for those of us not running cutting-edge systems yet. Kudos to the developers, just the same.

This is just an import from google maps. It's probably illegal and anyone can do this following a tutorial on youtube.

It's unoptimized because it lacks different level of details

Not functional. It is nice... but FPS is down to 10. I have the latest i9-10900 Processor/PC

39 minutes ago, cepact said:

It's unoptimized because it lacks different level of details

Not really, the real problem is that it comes with 16.653 individual 256x256 textures in the texture folder, and each one is a different material, and so many material changes are very expensive.

If it used few 4k textures instead, it could have used 256 times LESS textures ( about 65 ), meaning only 65 material changes, but of course that requires knowing how to do proper material baking.

Edited September 6, 20205 yr by virtuali

3 hours ago, DJJose said:

Thanks David.

I also downloaded Asobo Malaga. I'm assuming that I extract into my community folder?

hi

thanks for the download link but have you got the link to where you seen it as it would be nice to see any new updates for this addon 

 

thanks 

Definitely better looking than default, but a framerate killer for sure. If the uploader can get the LOD sorted, it will be a nice addition. I love spending time in Monaco and would love to see good representations of Cannes and Nice too.

On 9/6/2020 at 11:14 AM, virtuali said:

but of course that requires knowing how to do proper material baking.

Umberto,

I grant you permission to make this your new project. 🙂  I know general scenery is not specifically FSDT's realm...but if you model LFMN and throw in Monaco, I'm a day 1 buyer! 🙂

Of course, knock out ORD and DFW 1st. 😉

Can't wait to get them in my sim!  Still blown away with the ORD vid...amazing stuff.

9 minutes ago, Steve Dra said:

I grant you permission to make this your new project.

That's the crux of being a commercial developer: you can't do something that might look fun, because while freeware authors can get away with taking Google maps objects, we surely can't and, even if we made it as freeware, Google lawyers would look it as a PR initiative, and will sue us into space...

So we cannot afford doing something like that, even if I had to look at that technique, to know about possible pitfalls, and possible solutions. Maybe the author read my post, and could use it as a suggestion where to improve.

Edited September 7, 20205 yr by virtuali

2 minutes ago, virtuali said:

That's the crux of being a commercial developer: you can't do something that might look fun, because while freeware authors can get away with taking Google maps objects, we surely can't and, even if we made it as freeware, Google lawyers would look it as a PR initiative, and will sue us into space...

So we cannot afford doing something like that, even if I had to look at that technique, to know about possible pitfalls, and possible solutions. Maybe the author read my post, and could use it as a suggestion where to improve.

Well...it was a fun thought to bounce around in my brain...but I figured as much.

I hope the author follows your suggestions, I know there is a lot of work that has to be done to "fine tune" the scenery to make it usable.  Some of it may be out of his level of expertise, but regardless it is great to see the community taking interest at a level I've never seen in such a short time of a new release.

While some have mused the idea that commercial devs won't have a place in the market with all these modders popping out of the woodwork, I know the long-time simmers who've been thru this before know there will always be a market for quality addons, but how it functions and looks will certainly change as much as the look and feel of the new sim has. 😉

someone has asobo lezg Zaragoza? it was in beta!
Thank you.

wow it does look stunning.

On 9/6/2020 at 10:35 AM, cepact said:

This is just an import from google maps. It's probably illegal and anyone can do this following a tutorial on youtube.

Have you read the Disclaimer (For google.txt) file included in the zipped file?

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Part of this content including 3d data and textures is copyrighted by  Map data ©2019 Google 

This free creation contains content from Google Maps or Google Earth. In accordance with Google Terms of Services and especially point 2.2 of Google Maps/Google Earth Additional Terms of Service, this creation is based on « fair use » or « fair dealing » of the data provided by google throught its services. No commercial use or any gain is or will ever be made by the author of this creation, who doesn’t own anything regarding google assets but a simple user Licence. According to the following document https://www.google.com/intl/en-GB/permissions/geoguidelines/, the author is freely sharing a creative application of Google Maps or Google Earth. The author will not recieve any form of retribution for sharing his work, even general donations from users of file hosting web services under the form of « rewards » or « tips ». If this content would be found somewhere where it is provided in exchange of money or any kind of retribution, I wouldn’t be with the consent of the author who will stick to strict free content creation diffusion.

As Google stated it cant answer to any direct demand about a particular creative use of its properties, like stated in the « written permission » paragraph of the same document, to verify if its complying with its Term of Services, and as it is economically unreasonable for the casual creator of this content to ask for a costly legal analysis of its creation like proposed in the « Fair use » paragraph of the document, the author of this creation will stop sharing it freely and destroy any trace of it at first demand from Google, in accordance with the paragraph « Taking action in case of problems » of the Google Terms of Service about « advance notice » provided « when reasonably possible

 

On 9/6/2020 at 11:14 AM, virtuali said:

If it used few 4k textures instead, it could have used 256 times LESS textures ( about 65 ), meaning only 65 material changes, but of course that requires knowing how to do proper material baking.

Umberto, unless I totally misunderstood, the program that does the extraction, et cetera also has the capability to combine and simplify those small textures automatically should one choose to use it. 

11 minutes ago, n4gix said:

Umberto, unless I totally misunderstood, the program that does the extraction, et cetera also has the capability to combine and simplify those small textures automatically should one choose to use it. 

As far as I know, they use Blender, and there's two step process, first importing the object in Blender, then optimizing the texture with baking. The 2nd step is optional, and the scenery will work, just it will be very heavy on fps because of the thousands+ materials.

Actually cleaning up the materials is not that hard, but it takes quite some time. They need some serious optimization, which can be somehow achive.