Live WX

[fakeflyer737 1,012]

85% of the time the Live WX doesn't load any WX. Doesn't seem to matter what time of day or where I am flying. 

I have tried different servers and nothing seems to help.

Any ideas?

Regards

[vgbaron 3,714]

Seriously, join the club and complain to Asobo.

Vic

[fppilot 4,391]

I am getting reasonable live weather most of the time with the exception of the always 3 MPH winds aloft at all altitudes.  Another issue is nav database.  I flew into one of my sim flying frequent airports today, KUMP near Indianapolis.  It has four published approaches.  One each NDB and VOR approach, and two RNAV (GPS) approaches.  I encountered IMC and the only approach the G1000 offered me was the VOR approach.  The other three are just not there!

All this after the hype on partners months before release.  One superb partner for weather and another for navigation data.  

Where are they?

[JRBarrett 3,121]

35 minutes ago, fppilot said:

I am getting reasonable live weather most of the time with the exception of the always 3 MPH winds aloft at all altitudes.  Another issue is nav database.  I flew into one of my sim flying frequent airports today, KUMP near Indianapolis.  It has four published approaches.  One each NDB and VOR approach, and two RNAV (GPS) approaches.  I encountered IMC and the only approach the G1000 offered me was the VOR approach.  The other three are just not there!

All this after the hype on partners months before release.  One superb partner for weather and another for navigation data.  

Where are they?

NavBlue may provide high quality AIRAC data for Europe, but they have serious quality control problems with their approach data for small airports in the USA. What you are describing is typical - RNAV approaches missing entirely, or even worse, approaches are present, but with outdated fix names or IF/IAF entries.

Among real world operators in the US, by far the great majority use either Jeppesen or Lufthansa (LIDO) AIRAC data for their FMS-equipped airplanes. Garmin-equipped aircraft usually buy their databases from either directly from Garmin, or from Jeppesen. NavBlue has very little penetration in the US aviation market, although I understand that they are quite popular in Europe.

Their charts and AIRAC products tend to be quite a less expensive than Jepp or Lido, and some operators might use them to economize, but many switch back after finding out that “you get what you pay for”. Mesa Airlines used NavBlue for several months a few years ago as a cost-saving measure, and it almost caused an insurrection in their flight department. The pilots were not happy with the product at all - especially the charts. They ended up going back to Jeppesen.

Navigraph has announced that they will be providing their Jeppesen-based nav data as an alternative to NavBlue for updating the core AIRAC data in MSFS, and I absolutely intend to switch to that just as soon as it becomes available.

[fppilot 4,391]

14 minutes ago, JRBarrett said:

NavBlue may provide high quality AIRAC data for Europe, but they have serious quality control problems with their approach data for small airports in the USA. What you are describing is typical - RNAV approaches missing entirely, or even worse, approaches are present, but with outdated fix names or IF/IAF entries.

Among real world operators in the US, by far the great majority use either Jeppesen or Lufthansa (LIDO) AIRAC data for their FMS-equipped airplanes. Garmin-equipped aircraft usually buy their databases from either directly from Garmin, or from Jeppesen. NavBlue has very little penetration in the US aviation market, although I understand that they are quite popular in Europe.

Their charts and AIRAC products tend to be quite a less expensive than Jepp or Lido, and some operators might use them to economize, but many switch back after finding out that “you get what you pay for”. Mesa Airlines used NavBlue for several months a few years ago as a cost-saving measure, and it almost caused an insurrection in their flight department. The pilots were not happy with the product at all - especially the charts. They ended up going back to Jeppesen.

Navigraph has announced that they will be providing their Jeppesen-based nav data as an alternative to NavBlue for updating the core AIRAC data in MSFS, and I absolutely intend to switch to that just as soon as it becomes available.

Then if we can just get the avionics straightened out.  Tried to do a Direct→ to a waypoint on up in a flight plan?  Tried to activate an approach in a flight plan in the DA62 after the last route fix but before the IAF? 

I flew the same route today from Kansas City Lee's Summit KLXT to Indianapolis Metro KUMP.  Once in FSX SE, the other in MSFS.  The FSX SE flight was in the Milviz 310R equipped with a pair of RXP GNS gauges.  The MSFS flight was in the G1000 equipped DiamondDA62.  The experience was nowhere near comparable.  I can tune the RXP GNS gauges with the mouse wheel with prominent legacy mouse pointers, or with more precise mouse clicks.  I could make changes in a fraction of the time the changes took in the MSFS 2020 G1000.  And with the FSX SE 310R and RXP I could do it without loosing perspective vision of my flight from the pilot's seat.  When I dialed in the approach in the FSX SE 310R, all of the published approaches into KUMP were available.  In the MSFS DA62 only one approach was available.  An outdated VOR 33 approach.  I have not been forced to purchase nav data for the RXP gauges.  The Avsim community is thick and cooperative.

The 310R flight was with AS16 and winds aloft were on spot.  The DA62 flight provided reasonable cloud layers and baro pressure, but winds aloft remain at 3 kts.

I am flying an MLB team's schedule, city to city as the schedule occurs.  Right now the flights I can rely on are FSX SE.

Edited September 8, 2020 by fppilot

[JRBarrett 3,121]

In fairness the airline FMS issues and G-xxxx approach loading and direct-to issues in MSFS probably don’t have anything to do with the core nav data. Asobo still has a lot of work to do to implement correct functionality in all the more advanced avionics systems in the default aircraft. But, that is not helped by trying to load a specific approach at an airport only to find that it does not exist at all in the AIRAC data.

[Adrian123 1,015]

Agree Jim. Not sure what navdata had to do with the defunk weather? 😉

[JRBarrett 3,121]

12 minutes ago, Adrian123 said:

Agree Jim. Not sure what navdata had to do with the defunk weather? 😉

I have a lot more confidence in the quality of MeteoBlue’s product than I do in NavBlue’s. I think the current issues with weather are due to problems that Asobo is having with getting the MB data transferred into the game, combined with an outright bug in the sim itself causing the 225/03 wind problem in so many areas. 

[fppilot 4,391]

21 minutes ago, Adrian123 said:

Agree Jim. Not sure what navdata had to do with the defunk weather? 😉

Never said the two were in any way related.  Two separate issues.  Point was that in flying the schedule I have adopted with realistic real-time conditions and real-world nav accuracy that it just is not viable yet in MSFS.  I do hold hope.  It is just not there yet for how I fly this hobby,

[BackboneOne 47]

At the moment, thete is only rwy 7 approaches available at LFPG, all others are gone and LFPG is not small... 

[bahnzo 47]

Live WX (at least in the US) sucks right now. 

I live in Colorado and we have all kinds of weather coming in, current weather is showing clouds, rain, etc.

Load up MSFS and the field in my area. Clear sky and calm. Excellent job guys!

[wim123 765]

i think its bound to whatever server you use, i have weather in the us, (except correct winds).

i am on the european server.

i think the problem is in getting the data to all the servers.. only asobo/ms can solve this.

[diajohn 169]

I sometimes wonder.  I just loaded up at KDEN and the WX was spot on except for the wind indicator.  I am in Denver.

[bahnzo 47]

5 hours ago, diajohn said:

I sometimes wonder.  I just loaded up at KDEN and the WX was spot on except for the wind indicator.  I am in Denver.

I've had this also, where it does seem to show the correct conditions. But the wind has never worked, no matter what. 

[diajohn 169]

I had a lot of wx during my flight.  My landing in Grand Junction was rough due to turbulence and winds.  It just didn;t show on the G1000 but it sure did on the flight.