October 4, 20205 yr As I fly at a constant 5000 ft with OAT at 6C, every few minutes I have to adjust my mixture just a tad in and out because the rpm drop very low. Then I set it back to where it was and everything is fine for a few more minutes. Until it happens again. I set the mixture to where I get the most rpm, and leave it, but this happens every so often. Didnt do this before. Edited October 4, 20205 yr by Andreas Stangenes Andreas Stangenes http://www.youtube.com/user/krsans78 Add me on gamertag: Bullhorns78
October 4, 20205 yr Can confirm. Like all the bugs related to avionics, autopilot and controls, the occurrence is unpredictable. I haven't seen this bug since 1.93, but I wouldn't be surprised that if on my next flight, it shows up.
October 4, 20205 yr I didn’t even think leaning was working. It doesn’t work in the sr22. Mixture does nothing until you pull it far enough to cut fuel. Asus X570 TUF WIFI | 5800X3D | 32 GB DDR4 3600 | MSI RTX 4090 | EVGA 1300W | ASUS GT501 TUF | Samsung C49RG90 49" | Oculus Quest 2 | Windows 11 Professional X64
October 4, 20205 yr The real problem with mixture right now is broken logic. As you lean mixture fuel flow never increases only EGT should increase until until it peaked. In MSFS you can see fuel flow actually increased as lean and when you close to peak fuel flow start decreasing. This is fundamentally wrong ! Of course how much we pull mixture knob or lever depends on altitude. IRL we lean mixture during taxi 1. Leaning G1000 2. Leaning during taxi Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
October 4, 20205 yr Yes, mixture and fuel flow seem to be way off. What I find is to just lean until the RPMs drop, then rich a little to get back to max RPM. You get the power you'd expect, but you'll burn a lot more fuel. Good thing simulator fuel is free. I'm hoping it gets addressed in a patch soon. ------------------------- Craig from KBUF
October 4, 20205 yr Has always been that way since ages ( I'd say since fs5 ). Mixture leaning just reduces FF right from the begining at sea level. Then as you climb, there's an intial increase in FF and only after a while it starts dropping... Apparently ASOBO ported the reciprocating engine logic from previous versions of the sim 😕 Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
October 4, 20205 yr 18 minutes ago, jcomm said: Has always been that way since ages ( I'd say since fs5 ). Mixture leaning just reduces FF right from the begining at sea level. Then as you climb, there's an intial increase in FF and only after a while it starts dropping... Apparently ASOBO ported the reciprocating engine logic from previous versions of the sim 😕 Yes that seems right - although I hadn't seen quite as much "reverse" fuel flow readings when leaning as in FSX. This coding flaw has been present since probably before FS2004! If you issue a new product or mod you get grief sometimes for not "fixing" the mixture but there is little you can do except mitigate the worst of it. You can also cheat by using simvars or xml files to trick the user into thinking 45% mixture is 55%. I don't think it would take much energy to finally fix it as it is after all just altering parameters in already existing hard coding, but it needs someone who has access to source code to do it. Robert Young - retired full time developer - see my Nexus Mod Page and my GitHub Mod page
October 4, 20205 yr @robert young Rob- PLEASE TELL US you’re at least “thinking” about getting back in the aeroplane business? One of my sharpest regrets leaving P3D will be losing my RealAir aircraft forever. I will still purchase from Sean if he ever shows up, but he may have burnt a bridge or two... so you’re the half of RealAir with untainted appeal... Fingers x’ed! C Edited October 4, 20205 yr by cavaricooper Best- Carl Avari-Cooper
October 5, 20205 yr 54 minutes ago, cavaricooper said: PLEASE TELL US you’re at least “thinking” about getting back in the aeroplane business? It would be fantastic news to get the Dukes and the Legacy for MSFS, ideally, with RXP avionics 🙂🙂 Bert
October 5, 20205 yr @Bert Pieke and @robert young Bert and Rob- I would not presume to know the arrangements, but I’d imagine anything Rob does would have to be a totally new project, separate from the prior RealAir collaborations. That said, I’d echo your sentiments EXACTLY Bert. C Best- Carl Avari-Cooper
October 5, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, cavaricooper said: PLEASE TELL US you’re at least “thinking” about getting back in the aeroplane business? One of my sharpest regrets leaving P3D will be losing my RealAir aircraft forever. 16 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said: It would be fantastic news to get the Dukes and the Legacy for MSFS, ideally, with RXP avionics 🙂🙂 Fully agree. Fully! Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
October 5, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, cavaricooper said: @robert young Rob- PLEASE TELL US you’re at least “thinking” about getting back in the aeroplane business? One of my sharpest regrets leaving P3D will be losing my RealAir aircraft forever. I will still purchase from Sean if he ever shows up, but he may have burnt a bridge or two... so you’re the half of RealAir with untainted appeal... Fingers x’ed! C I'm working hard on the FS2020 Bonanza turbo mod at the moment and it's taking up all my spare time. My health is not great so no going back to Realair type of work - besides which I'm a flight model and sound specialist, not graphics or systems. I would not be capable of a conversion without very easy tools and they don't exist at the moment. But the Lancair Legacy is my favourite project we ever did and Sean did a fantastic job on the modelling and gauges. Edited October 5, 20205 yr by robert young Robert Young - retired full time developer - see my Nexus Mod Page and my GitHub Mod page
October 5, 20205 yr Rob- EVERYTHING you two produced was superlative. Stay healthy, and if and when you can share your talents with us, I shall be grateful. Excited to hear about your MSFS Bonanza work... do keep us tantalized... Ta- C Best- Carl Avari-Cooper
October 5, 20205 yr RealAir, in any sort of way, present in MFS would be an EXCELLENT source of energy for us prop / turboprop lovers :-) Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
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