1 hour ago, knmanyffw said:

I think it is now too late for MS and Asobo. 

Many people I know deleted the sim from their computers and are playing Doom, star wars and other video games.

Instead of patching a scenery such as Japan, which even needed to be patched again they should have put their focus on fixing the big bugs in the aircrafts and the whole sim in general.

Moreover, many youtubers who were uploading almost every day are now barely uploading anything related to MSFS.

I love flight simulators and have been since the DOS version of Chuck Yeager's Advanced Flight Simulator, if anyone remembers, but MS and Asobo's approach is not acceptable in my opinion.

Being the Curious type, I went ahead and did a YouTube search for Microsoft Flight Simulator videos done in the last week

I got bored and stopped at 120, soooooooo........

As far as I'm concerned your conjecture has hit the ground with a dull thunk

My view is probably the same as most by the look of it.  A steady update worth having - moderately satisfied.

The only thing 'promised' which they didn't deliver was the 'press any key' thing, which is no major drama, and they did apologise for that mix up.  

Like others, I want things fixed quicker (mainly the ones they broke since initial release!), but there is another update in 2 weeks anyway - let's see how they do.

I understand the impatience and frustration, as we all have different tolerance levels, but I don't understand how anyone can be a 'hater' at this stage.  And some of the things stated earlier in the thread are plainly wrong and just not worth responding to.  Trolling for a response I think. 🙄

As for people wanting refunds or uninstalling the sim, for all its issues, there are lots of people out there enjoying it, and there are lots of people making YouTube videos every day, so people with a specific problem need to have a bit more patience and realise it may point to a specific problem with their PC or configuration, otherwise we would all be having the same problems.

Edited October 14, 20205 yr by bobcat999

I did a couple of flights and didn't notice anything broken that wasn't broken before, so considering what the previous patches were like I'm calling it good.

If memory serves, it was "Chuck Yeager's Advanced Flight TRAINER".  I remember it having a pleasantly smooth flight model and needing flaps for takeoff in the SR-71 or you'd shred your tires. 🙂 Graphics were barely a step above CGA but it was fun as anything at the time.  How far we've come.

Hook

11 minutes ago, LHookins said:

I did a couple of flights and didn't notice anything broken that wasn't broken before, so considering what the previous patches were like I'm calling it good.

😄 Ha! Ha!  Yes, this is the new standard to judge by!

57 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

Being the Curious type, I went ahead and did a YouTube search for Microsoft Flight Simulator videos done in the last week

I got bored and stopped at 120, soooooooo........

As far as I'm concerned your conjecture has hit the ground with a dull thunk

Stop it with your facts, you gonna make them mad! 

I couldn't possibly delete MSFS2020.

On my arrival back at Heathrow from Frankfurt (see earlier post) this afternoon the jetways were so 'excited' to see me it would be an act of callous cruelty to deprive them of my company now. . .

 

 

Edited October 14, 20205 yr by Will Fly For Cheese

8 minutes ago, Will Fly For Cheese said:

I couldn't possibly delete MSFS2020.

On my arrival back at Heathrow from Frankfurt (see earlier post) this afternoon the jetways were so 'excited' to see me it would be an act of callous cruelty to deprive them of my company now. . .

 

 

What a beautiful sight 😄 what the hell? 

5 minutes ago, leprechaunlive said:

What a beautiful sight 😄 what the hell? 

I must say, I hesitated initially to vacate the runway and not firewall the donks and get out of there.

Every single jetway at EGLL was standing to attention like that.

Really rather unsettling.

When I flew out of there at dawn this morning there was none of this nonsense going on.

Edited October 14, 20205 yr by Will Fly For Cheese

2 hours ago, knmanyffw said:

Prove it 

You'd better prove your incredible statement.

As for me last patch fixed minor "stability" issues VFR map crash and etc. However, I never expected it to fix anything important. Since my expectation were low it didn't really affected me emotionally that much.

It is obvious that after several patches indoor testing  is not very efficient.  There is a cheaper and more efficient way adopted by Laminar. Release optional beta patches and let simmers test it. Few days  of stress test and Aosbo won't need to release patches that fix previous patches LOL

2 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

As for me last patch fixed minor "stability" issues VFR map crash and etc. However, I never expected it to fix anything important. Since my expectation were low it didn't really affected me emotionally that much.

It is obvious that after several patches indoor testing  is not very efficient.  There is a cheaper and more efficient way adopted by Laminar. Release optional beta patches and let simmers test it. Few days  of stress test and Aosbo won't need to release patches that fix previous patches LOL

Absolutely. Beta testing is like free money for Asobo. In most software development teams, you have to pay somebody to test your software.  For game companies, a lot of the players will test the game for free. Letting the beta testers test the patch for a week or so and Asobo will instantly get valuable feedback.  Stuff like the sensitivity menu bug and the A320 left engine bug would easily be detected by a large enough beta testing team.  It's a no brainer to use a beta testing team - not sure why Asobo disbanded the testing team in the first place.

1 minute ago, abrams_tank said:

Absolutely. Beta testing is like free money for Asobo. In most software development teams, you have to pay somebody to test your software.  For game companies, a lot of the players will test the game for free. Letting the beta testers test the patch for a week or so and Asobo will instantly get valuable feedback.  Stuff like the sensitivity menu bug and the A320 left engine bug would easily be detected by a large enough beta testing team.  It's a no brainer to use a beta testing team - not sure why Asobo disbanded the testing team in the first place.

Yes, there was a talk that beta will continue beyond release . It didn't and so here is a result.  This is pretty ironic when Aosobo not aware of bugs brought by simmers during Q&A sessions. To me is like a red flag! Your quality assurance department  not up to task . But then again there were a lot of things addressed during insider alpha/beta process. All tickets I submitted were closed on the day of MSFS release. Some of them still  were still legit and reintroduced later as community voted to fix the same issue again . So yeah it doesn't feel good. 

3 hours ago, knmanyffw said:

Prove it 

People you know? You must know a ton of people to even think about using that as a reliable sample size for your argument...

Okay, everyone stop fighting; it's okay; we have spare bulbs.

They did something to the Queen in the latest Update. She's wonderful. Absolutely spot on - not as functional (FMC wise as it could be) but flying very nicely indeed.

I'm going to Tokyo tomorrow. 10 1/2 hours from Heathrow. Taking off HEAVY. 

I'm not anticipating any problems in flight. (it's my flight planning I'm most concerned about - but that's where SimBrief comes in!)

Sushi tomorrow night.

 

Edited October 14, 20205 yr by Will Fly For Cheese

6 hours ago, knmanyffw said:

Moreover, many youtubers who were uploading almost every day are now barely uploading anything related to MSFS.

Most Youtube videos for new games are usually released in the first two to three weeks of the game's release. MSFS has passed the three weeks released point.  It's almost 2 months since MSFS has been released.  

The people uploading Youtube videos now of MSFS are most likely to be hard core simmers. This is expected of MSFS.  Perhaps when new content updates are released, such as the world update to the US, MSFS will garner attention again. But until then, like all other games, the interest in the game will die down several weeks after the release of that game.