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22 minutes ago, marsman2020 said:

On the topic of aerobatics, I read a couple real-world flight test articles on this aircraft and they indicated that it's on the heavy side and not super well suited for any aerobatics, so that sounds correct at least.

I'd go along with that. I tried a loop and it got a bit larey at the top. It would be churlish to complain though, it's not as if it's over priced is it?

12 minutes ago, jankees said:

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And quite right too. It would be criminal to let all that good work gather dust eh?

anyone found a manual - I found the documentation folder but there's only a data sheet and a sensitivity settings guide?

19 minutes ago, Ferg said:

anyone found a manual - I found the documentation folder but there's only a data sheet and a sensitivity settings guide?

There is no manual or performance tables. Just sensitivity settings and short description of aircraft that is it 😞

18 minutes ago, Ferg said:

anyone found a manual - I found the documentation folder but there's only a data sheet and a sensitivity settings guide?

None as far as I know.

I did find a link on the WACO website to the maintenance manual for the real one:

https://www.wacoaircraft.com/ymf-revf

 

 

5 hours ago, jankees said:

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Waco gets the Jankees treatment!

Where's my credit card?😀

T45

Maiden flight.

Very interesting.

I should have attached a set of gang mowers on the back.

I ran over most of the grass at Tweed New Haven Airport!

In ever increasing anti clock wise circles!

Even though I shoved as much weight as possible in the back, the C of G still showed 'out of range', being just in front of the wing leading edge.

I've flown many tail draggers so I thought I knew what to do, I'll ease the throttle out very slowly & be ready to catch any left drift with right rudder.

Dream on, it whipped left before I even got the rear wheel off the ground!

& around we went. Several times. When I did finally make it off the ground it was way nose heavy.

Back to the drawing board.😄

T45

Calm before the storm.

 

7 minutes ago, Treetops45 said:

Maiden flight.

Very interesting.

I should have attached a set of gang mowers on the back.

I ran over most of the grass at Tweed New Haven Airport!

In ever increasing anti clock wise circles!

Even though I shoved as much weight as possible in the back, the C of G still showed 'out of range', being just in front of the wing leading edge.

I've flown many tail draggers so I thought I knew what to do, I'll ease the throttle out very slowly & be ready to catch any left drift with right rudder.

Dream on, it whipped left before I even got the rear wheel off the ground!

& around we went. Several times. When I did finally make it off the ground it was way nose heavy.

Back to the drawing board.😄

T45

Calm before the storm.

 

 

 

Persist it is worth it.

The solution is to keep the tail wheel down through to 45 knots either by full Nose Up trim or full back stick ... and be prepared for a serious kick to the left around 40 knots that is controllable with tail down but can almost turn into a ground loop if the tail is up.

Once in the air it is a rort to fly, great fun. Not overly aerobatic, the roll rate is pretty abysmal, just good clean fun.

Remember to click on the in game joystick and bring up the iPad thingee if you want to enable the front cockpit.

 

Edited January 21, 20215 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

7 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

 

 

Persist it is worth it.

The solution is to keep the tail wheel down through to 45 knots either by full Nose Up trim or full back stick ... and be prepared for a serious kick to the left around 40 knots that is controllable with tail down but can almost turn into a ground loop if the tail is up.

Once in the air it is a rort to fly, great fun. Not overly aerobatic, the roll rate is pretty abysmal, just good clean fun.

Remember to click on the in game joystick and bring up the iPad thingee if you want to enable the front cockpit.

 

Is it possible to get the C of G 'within range'?

T45

8 minutes ago, Treetops45 said:

Is it possible to get the C of G 'within range'?

T45

No but you can get close by putting 500+ lbs in back luggage compartment while keeping rest of the station at 0 weight 

30 minutes ago, Treetops45 said:

Is it possible to get the C of G 'within range'?

T45

As JD_Flyer says you can sort of fudge it.

BUT ... there is more to the issue than just the CoG .  Just balancing the weight by itself only mitigates the ground handling.

Current issues with this aircraft:

• ground handling especially on takeoff - until they fix it just pull stick back or trim nose up to keep tail wheel down till you rotate
• it spawns with fuel off for take off and landing which can make things interesting spawning on final for a night approach
• roll rate is really awful

Despite that as I said before this aircraft is great fun to fly and looks amazing, just not remotely realistic.

 

59 minutes ago, Treetops45 said:

Is it possible to get the C of G 'within range'?

T45

Interesting, everyone talks of it being great in flight, however I also find it feels nose heavy... Try a roll for example lol. Or, go to flare into a three point... you will run out of elevator authority very fast at the recommended 80mph. Also... stalls don't exist because of the nose heavy condition. They need to fix the airplane, full stop. 

27 minutes ago, jpe828 said:

 Or, go to flare into a three point... you will run out of elevator authority very fast at the recommended 80mph.

Which is why i prefer to just wind the trim to full nose up on take-off and landing as hopefully you will regain some of your elevator authority compared to just stick back. In the real aircraft trim tilts the entire tailplane rather than defecting the elevator so, in theory at least, full  trim plus full defection should equal more authority as opposed to either by themselves.

Regardless, they are all stop gap work arounds for a badly imported flight model.

With regard to flying it, it is not spritely in flight and has a few issues - try a barrel roll, even at high speed with altitude you are unlikely to recover before you crash and burn.  It is more that the radial sound and the visuals and great cockpit visibility mean the overall experience is quite fun DESPITE the bad flight model. 

Hopefully they will patch it, however even if they get a patch out by tomorrow, any Marketplace purchasers will not see it for another 3 or 4 weeks.

 

Edited January 21, 20215 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

32 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

Which is why i prefer to just wind the trim to full nose up on take-off and landing as hopefully you will regain some of your elevator authority compared to just stick back. In the real aircraft trim tilts the entire tailplane rather than defecting the elevator so, in theory at least, full  trim plus full defection should equal more authority as opposed to either by themselves.

Regardless, they are all stop gap work arounds for a badly imported flight model.

With regard to flying it, it is not spritely in flight and has a few issues - try a barrel roll, even at high speed with altitude you are unlikely to recover before you crash and burn.  It is more that the radial sound and the visuals and great cockpit visibility mean the overall experience is quite fun DESPITE the bad flight model. 

Hopefully they will patch it, however even if they get a patch out by tomorrow, any Marketplace purchasers will not see it for another 3 or 4 weeks.

 

Totally agree with your thoughts, if they patch it I will be very happy. There are alot of pretty unhappy people, so hopefully that will spur them on.