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Need some advice setting up MSFS@30Hz

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22 minutes ago, cwburnett said:

Purely FYI, but I am running 30hz on the monitor, vsync + TB on in graphics card settings (NCP for you), vsync on in sim, but set to 60 hz in the sim, and I get smooth 30 fps with little/no stutter. Just a data point. I've never found a benefit to adding RTSS to the equation unless your monitor can't do 30hz natively.

I'll try that one!

I had RTSS on because i had an impression of the sim being somewhat more smooth with it

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38 minutes ago, Ixoye said:

Vsync in the game does not work properly.

+1

lock the frame rate in rivatuner or the NVidia control panel, not in game

31 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

+1

lock the frame rate in rivatuner or the NVidia control panel, not in game

 I have found when running a 30 hz refresh rate monitor, that the in game vsync has to be on and set to 60 fps to be effective. 30 is a slide show. I am also running a 9900k processor at 4.8 and a 3090 with in game  Ultra settings, Vsync on @ 60fps going into a Samsung 4k monitor hooked up to 30hz output and never been smoother. No need to use riva or ncp frame limiter. I do set the NCP to max perf, high peformance on quality, and ultra on the latency.

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19 minutes ago, skipph said:

 I have found when running a 30 hz refresh rate monitor, that the in game vsync has to be on and set to 60 fps to be effective. 30 is a slide show. I am also running a 9900k processor at 4.8 and a 3090 with in game  Ultra settings, Vsync on @ 60fps going into a Samsung 4k monitor hooked up to 30hz output and never been smoother. No need to use riva or ncp frame limiter. I do set the NCP to max perf, high peformance on quality, and ultra on the latency.

Sounds good! Will give iit a go later! thx!

 

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20 hours ago, skipph said:

 I have found when running a 30 hz refresh rate monitor, that the in game vsync has to be on and set to 60 fps to be effective. 30 is a slide show. I am also running a 9900k processor at 4.8 and a 3090 with in game  Ultra settings, Vsync on @ 60fps going into a Samsung 4k monitor hooked up to 30hz output and never been smoother. No need to use riva or ncp frame limiter. I do set the NCP to max perf, high peformance on quality, and ultra on the latency.

So I have a Sony TV 60HZ connected om my PC

Should I  set it to 30HZ instead of 60HZ ?
And Vsysnc on to 60HZ in the NVIDIA settings ?
It that what you mean ?

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38 minutes ago, altenae said:

So I have a Sony TV 60HZ connected om my PC

Should I  set it to 30HZ instead of 60HZ ?
And Vsysnc on to 60HZ in the NVIDIA settings ?
It that what you mean ?

In NVidia Control Panel you can set the monitor to 30hz refresh rate. Then in NVidia Control Panel set vsync on for FlightSimulator. Then in the game itself, set vsync to on, but choose 60 instead of 30 -- only in the game itself set 60. For some reason if you're at 30hz and you set 30 in game, you only get 15. It's a bug as far as I can tell.

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1 hour ago, altenae said:

So I have a Sony TV 60HZ connected om my PC

Should I  set it to 30HZ instead of 60HZ ?
And Vsysnc on to 60HZ in the NVIDIA settings ?
It that what you mean ?

Does your monitor have a 30hz capability? If there is no native 30hz capability on the monitor, and do check the individual inputs on the rear panel for the specs on each input, then the scenario that I described will not apply in this case. 

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33 minutes ago, skipph said:

Does your monitor have a 30hz capability? If there is no native 30hz capability on the monitor, and do check the individual inputs on the rear panel for the specs on each input, then the scenario that I described will not apply in this case. 

Yes it has the 30Hz option. I think the issue i am having is related to some Vsync setting...just havent found the right one :D

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31 minutes ago, skipph said:

Does your monitor have a 30hz capability? If there is no native 30hz capability on the monitor, and do check the individual inputs on the rear panel for the specs on each input, then the scenario that I described will not apply in this case. 

I am following this post with interest as I have tried messing around with 30Mhz and never got good results. When you say check the specs of the inputs should one of the inputs specifically be rated at 30Mhz? I use a 42" 1080P LED TV, nothing special but in the list of refresh rates 30Mhz is shown.. For me the best experience is to use Vsync in game set to 60FPS. Vsync does work because I can see the FPS of 60 with the built in developer tool. I mostly fly GA in and out of smaller airports so I can achieve 60FPS for the most part. This is the reason I haven't upgraded to a 4K TV, I am worried my trusty old 1080TI will not be able to maintain anywhere close to 60 FPS in 4K

 

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I have a sony and cannot find a way to set the hrz? Do I use NCP?

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On 12/18/2020 at 11:35 AM, Richdem said:

I am following this post with interest as I have tried messing around with 30Mhz and never got good results. When you say check the specs of the inputs should one of the inputs specifically be rated at 30Mhz? I use a 42" 1080P LED TV, nothing special but in the list of refresh rates 30Mhz is shown.. For me the best experience is to use Vsync in game set to 60FPS. Vsync does work because I can see the FPS of 60 with the built in developer tool. I mostly fly GA in and out of smaller airports so I can achieve 60FPS for the most part. This is the reason I haven't upgraded to a 4K TV, I am worried my trusty old 1080TI will not be able to maintain anywhere close to 60 FPS in 4K

Yes, that is what I mean. Up until a short time ago, and I had this monitor for 2 plus years already, I paid no attention to where I plugged my cord between card and monitor. I usually just decided where it should go based on what shape the plug  and socket that matched it. How stupid. After getting the 3090 and farting around trying this setting and that settings, I finally decided to dig in based on a thread I had just recently read. So I went out to EVGA where I bought the 3090 and pulled up all the tech info.  The card has 4 outputs and there are different specs assigned to all 4 ports. I then went to Samsung and pulled up my monitor specs for the first time ever and found that I had a HDMI at 30hz refresh port and one HDMI at 60. And also a display port which was not as fast as the newer display port technology which I had been currently using. I was so dumb about this whole business that I always thought I has 2 HDMI ports just for convenience or if I had 2 monitors to hooked up.

  My trusty old 1080TI did do fairly well also, but settings had to be sacrificed to get performance, esp. in large cities The 3090 using 60 refresh will do great minus some settings, but at 30 refresh monitor and 60 in game vsync, which by the way only shows 30 on the MSFS frame counter, is a solid 30 for the most part with Ultra settings. Skip

On 12/18/2020 at 5:38 PM, cchiozza said:

I have a sony and cannot find a way to set the hrz? Do I use NCP?

Only if the monitor is capable of 30. Skip

On 12/17/2020 at 10:20 AM, Ixoye said:

I use G-Sync + V-Sync in Nvidia panel and cap my fps to 30 with Riva Tuner, smooth as butter for me with a 100hz monitor.

Why would you use both? I thought the purpose of G-Sync was so that you don’t need V-Sync but won’t see tearing.

Doesn’t having V-Sync on essentially negate the use of G-Sync?

6 hours ago, neil0311 said:

Why would you use both? I thought the purpose of G-Sync was so that you don’t need V-Sync but won’t see tearing.

Doesn’t having V-Sync on essentially negate the use of G-Sync?

I get bad performance if I turn one of them off, (micro stutter and tearing) I do not know why actually, I have not thought so much about it, I read somewhere that it was recommended that you should use both, and that seems to work best in my case.

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You only turn v-sync on with gsync for one main reason:-

1.) incase you go above your screens refresh rate. Then v-sync will kick in. Below that, g-sync will be operating. 
If you never get FPS high enough to go above your maximum refresh rate, then it’s irrelevant if you have v-sync on or off. 
 

GSync with VSync will use GSync when below the monitor's maximum refresh rate, then switch to VSync when you go over it. This will prevent tearing, but in the event you go over your monitors refresh rate, you may encounter the input delay that VSync can cause.

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