18 minutes ago, G-RFRY said:

<Two videos linked>

First one (already posted) shows the guy using head tracking exclusively ('you can't do much with the gaze tracking', he says). Second one has no commentary or notes so gives no clue if he is even using gaze tracking.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Donka said:

Tobii 5 has both head and eye tracking and it works very well indeed. Will need to see how it is implemented in MSFS but it definitely isn’t binary start stop of panning in my experience. It is really fluid and smooth with the right support. You can also dial in how you want it to act to really personalise the experience.

I'm not disputing that it can track your eyes smoothly, I just don't see an algorithm that can use this to control the view. FYI the v1 implementation in FSX was indeed stop/start, and someone's truck sim video with v5 looks like it uses basically the same kind of algorithm. So yes, gaze tracking is exciting but let's use it for problems that need solving. And if anyone wants to claim gaze tracking will replace TrackIR, they're going to need to spell it out.

In all honesty, I disabled gaze tracking when testing previously with MSFS but would certainly revisit if implemented properly in official support. The head tracking was fine for me and very accurate. My issue was the beta plugin could not offer smooth, real time tracking. I’ve seen in other apps where this isn’t an issue so I’m confident this will be a robust solution once released. We will know for sure soon enough. 

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Can't wait to give this a shot in FS once it get official support through SU7. Reviews in other sims like DCS have been pretty good...

Planning on picking a Tobii 5 again if the early feedback is promising. Prefer the whole tracking experience without needing to wear anything on my head.

19 minutes ago, Donka said:

Planning on picking a Tobii 5 again if the early feedback is promising. Prefer the whole tracking experience without needing to wear anything on my head.

Make sure if you mount it on the bottom of your monitor, that your controllers are not in the way

3 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Make sure if you mount it on the bottom of your monitor, that your controllers are not in the way

Yup, I had one previously so no concern there. Only controller change is the addition on the Fulcrum yoke but sitting position and clearance are fine with that in place.

So (im)patiently waiting on someone to test this official support now SU7 is out. Fingers crossed it works well although I believe initially it will only offer head tracking.

I am really interested about some feedback as well

Just wondering, is it only working in game, or can I also use it to move my cursor on windows?

Edited November 18, 20214 yr by bendead

45 minutes ago, Donka said:

So (im)patiently waiting on someone to test this official support now SU7 is out. Fingers crossed it works well although I believe initially it will only offer head tracking.

It works, but as stated in their release notes, there is not customization. You can, however use your hat switch in conjunction with Tobii. I'm glad to see it's supported, but I'd like it to be more functional. Who knows how long it'll take, but it's better than nothing. Especially using it with the Reno DLC.

Here is the topic on the MSFS forum. The Tobii community manager has joined the disucssion.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/support-for-tobii-eyetrack/136553/313

I don't know if this has any relevance, but they changed something with how TrackIR works.

When you click F9 to toggle TrackIR off (in Naturalpoint software), the in-game TrackIR toggle also turns off. But when you click F9 to enable it, the in game toggle does NOT turn on. Meaning you have to have the Camera views window open and manually turn it on.