Autogen sliders in V4 and V5 do not show the same amount of objects. V5 shows more with the same settings.

Years people have complained about P3D being cpu dependent only and that the GPU’s had little to do.

With each release LM ported over extra calculations to the GPU. And now with DX12 the GPU has become even more important.

The difference between my former 2080/2080Ti and my current 3090s is enormous looking at the framerate.

Just now, GSalden said:

Autogen sliders in V4 and V5 do not show the same amount of objects. V5 shows more with the same settings.

Years people have complained about P3D being cpu dependent only and that the GPU’s had little to do.

With each release LM ported over extra calculations to the GPU. And now with DX12 the GPU has become even more important.

The difference between my former 2080/2080Ti and my current 3090s is enormous looking at the framerate.

Yes. That is true Gerard. But how do you feel about PBR changes, sloped runways, truesky quality and water?

Marcus

Maybe it's simply because the folks at LM are far more interested in flight simulation than they are in eye-candy. I'd really hate to see them start wasting more time and money on "junk" that has nothing to do with flying an airplane. And don't even start with all that "immersion" stuff. End of rant...........

2 minutes ago, W2DR said:

Maybe it's simply because the folks at LM are far more interested in flight simulation than they are in eye-candy. I'd really hate to see them start wasting more time and money on "junk" that has nothing to do with flying an airplane. And don't even start with all that "immersion" stuff. End of rant...........

At least a honest opinion and view from your side. 

So you are on v4 I assume? Because 30 fps is enough. Or?

Marcus

Edited January 3, 20215 yr by mpo910

22 minutes ago, mpo910 said:

Yes. That is true Gerard. But how do you feel about PBR changes, sloped runways, truesky quality and water?

Marcus

I responded to that already and put my comments in bold characters in your list.

regards, Gerard 

2 minutes ago, GSalden said:

I responded to that already and put my comments in bold characters in your list.

regards, Gerard 

Sorry. Just missed that one. Thanks. Marcus

35 minutes ago, W2DR said:

Maybe it's simply because the folks at LM are far more interested in flight simulation than they are in eye-candy. I'd really hate to see them start wasting more time and money on "junk" that has nothing to do with flying an airplane. And don't even start with all that "immersion" stuff. End of rant...........

You must be pretty disappointed then, because LM has made barely any changes to the core "flight simulation" aspect, be it flight dynamics, avionics, weather, etc. All of that is left to third party devs.

I agree with Gerard and Rob on almost every point. But  the rest of you are also right that LM needs to continue to clean up issues with these P3d5 improvements.

STs can be made to look pretty good without the ST SDK just by editing the deciduous tree textures to make them a darker green. Once done the trees look just as good as those in DCS World and MSFS and a heck of a lot better than the planar trees in XP11. The P3d5 implementation of trueSky does not compare with atmospherics in MSFS, but at least the weather in P3d5 is correct. XP11 is not even close to having immersive weather. The complaints about DX12 are related to hardware capabilities and IQ settings as Rob said, so that's not LM's problem either. The PBR looks nice in P3d5 and despite what people wrote in this thread, it is fairly easy to make an airport with a sloped runway in ADE. And the water issue in small ponds in rivers is annoying but is that really a big issue?

All in all P3d5 is solid and has good performance. It loads reasonably quickly from the desktop unlike MSFS. Its VR implementation is weak, but other than VR with the HP Reverb G2 in MSFS, the rest of the VR implementations in flightsims are not worth the trouble, despite what the VR zealots say.

 

1 hour ago, mpo910 said:

At least a honest opinion and view from your side. 

So you are on v4 I assume? Because 30 fps is enough. Or?

Marcus

No, I'm using v5. And, for me, there are no FPS issues. I do very little urban flying and out in the suburban/rural areas the framerate is always in the 45-75 range. (And that's with all the sliders maxxed.)

P.S. And, 30 FPS is always enough. That's why I lock the framerate there.

Edited January 3, 20215 yr by W2DR

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Edited January 3, 20215 yr by W2DR

LM needs a complete remake of the night lighting and night textures.  What they have implemented is so old and the sim looks really bad at night. 

Edited January 3, 20215 yr by B777ER

35 minutes ago, Chapstick said:

You must be pretty disappointed then, because LM has made barely any changes to the core "flight simulation" aspect, be it flight dynamics, avionics, weather, etc. All of that is left to third party devs.

I always remind myself of two things.....if it ain't really broke, don't mess around with trying to fix it. And, different is not the same as better.

1 hour ago, jabloomf1230 said:

XP11 is not even close to having immersive weather.

True. Although I love XP11 but its weather system, yikes. That is why I use something like xEnviro which completely overwrite X-Plane weather system with its own weather system. Not perfect but at least better than that built in weather system.

Let's see that Austin will deliver in XP12 as he was promising a 'next-gen' sim in the prodcast and let's see as well if he and his team will implement these top voted features for his next gen sim https://feedback.x-plane.com/#

 

 

6 hours ago, dave2013 said:

Please *prove* that P3Dv5 is much better than P3Dv4.  Not just "better", which I'm sure it is in some respects, but "much better".  Then it will no longer be a claim.

Thanks.

Dave

No, you can do your own homework.  You can think as you wish, you can fly what you wish, doesn't matter to me.

3 hours ago, B777ER said:

LM needs a complete remake of the night lighting and night textures.  What they have implemented is so old and the sim looks really bad at night. 

Right now I'm dealing with a bug where lights don't show up at arrival airports. This sim is bad, bad, bad. I don't know if MSFS is the answer but I hope eventually it provides an alternate platform for the add-ons I use.