My new PC is supposed to arrive this Saturday, and the first thing I am going to do is install MSFS 2020. I have used FSUIPC for years. I have also watched numerous Youtube videos on MS 2020, and several on setting up controls. I notice that every video  I have seen so far, seems to use the controller setup menus in MS 2020,  I am wondering if setting the controls up with FSUIPC has any advantages over the built in controller settings. Most of the posts that I have read on this topic seem to be months old, and I am thinking that  any of the updates so far, may have made controller setups in 2020 almost at the same  level as one would get by setting them up with FSUIPC. 

Edited January 25, 20215 yr by Bobsk8

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

My new PC is supposed to arrive this Saturday, and the first thing I am going to do is install MSFS 2020. I have used FSUIPC for years. I have also watched numerous Youtube videos on MS 2020, and several on setting up controls. I notice that every video  I have seen so far, seems to use the controller setup menus in MS 2020,  I am wondering if setting the controls up with FSUIPC has any advantages over the built in controller settings. Most of the posts that I have read on this topic seem to be months old, and I am thinking that  any of the updates so far, may have made controller setups in 2020 almost at the same  level as one would get by setting them up with FSUIPC. 

In MSFS you can set up and save different profiles for your controllers, and then select the ones you want when you want. You may want different profiles for different aircraft.  As a long time FSUIPC user I prefer to run all my controllers through FSUIPC7. This provides flexibility, lets me take advantage of functions available in FSUIPC, lets me set up conditional button combinations, and lets me assign buttons that call Lua scripts I use, etc. However, since you can have multiple controller profiles, suggest you try the MSFS default profiles, or profiles you set up just using MSFS, and if they do want you want -- fine. If not, you can set up alternative profiles using FSUIPC7 as needed.

Al

Edited January 25, 20215 yr by ark

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

 I am wondering if setting the controls up with FSUIPC has any advantages over the built in controller settings

I don't know if this still holds true as I have not tried to map buttons, switches using FSUIPC in MSFS2020, but when I WAS doing that in P3D I came across a comment by Pete Dowson asking basically this same question. His comment was right in the directions on how to do it.

I did use FSUIPC to map everything on my yoke (to prove I could do it), but did eventually returned to letting the sim handle the controls, switches, buttons, etc. I just use FSUIPC to calibrate the yoke and oystick.

I prefer FSUIPC because the switching of profiles is automatic. I use a combination. I have the throttle, prop and mixture axes set in MSFS and buttons etc set in FSUIPC along with some LUA scripts etc.

 

12 minutes ago, vgbaron said:

I prefer FSUIPC because the switching of profiles is automatic.

Could you explain what you mean by this -- thanks.

Al

2 hours ago, ark said:

Could you explain what you mean by this -- thanks.

Al

Well, in MSFS set a profile for a single engine prop and a twin engine jet you must select whichever profile you want to use when you fly. With FSUIPC I set single engine prop and twin jet and whichever aircraft I select, FSUIPC loads the appropriate profile.

When you create a profile in FSUIPC you can make it a/c specific and associate several different a/c with the same profile. So when I select a single engine prop a/c - FSUIPC is there already set up.

19 minutes ago, vgbaron said:

Well, in MSFS set a profile for a single engine prop and a twin engine jet you must select whichever profile you want to use when you fly. With FSUIPC I set single engine prop and twin jet and whichever aircraft I select, FSUIPC loads the appropriate profile.

When you create a profile in FSUIPC you can make it a/c specific and associate several different a/c with the same profile. So when I select a single engine prop a/c - FSUIPC is there already set up.

Ah, OK, I was focused on MSFS controller profiles and didn't realize you were referring to the aircraft specific profiles in FSUIPC, which I do make good use of.

Thanks,

Al

6 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

My new PC is supposed to arrive this Saturday, and the first thing I am going to do is install MSFS 2020. I have used FSUIPC for years. I have also watched numerous Youtube videos on MS 2020, and several on setting up controls. I notice that every video  I have seen so far, seems to use the controller setup menus in MS 2020,  I am wondering if setting the controls up with FSUIPC has any advantages over the built in controller settings. Most of the posts that I have read on this topic seem to be months old, and I am thinking that  any of the updates so far, may have made controller setups in 2020 almost at the same  level as one would get by setting them up with FSUIPC. 

As have different throttle controllers for different types of aircraft; I use FSUIPC to set those up, as FSUIPC automatically saves configurations for each airplane. Ie. when I select a C172, only my TPM is activated as power controller and then only the throttle and mixture axes are active.

When I select a multi engine the same is true for my Saitek

I use MSFS setting for my Saitek  Cessna pedals and Honeycomb yoke, so I have one setting for pitch, yaw and brake axes.

This works for me. I fly Ga exclusively; not sure if this setup would work for the airliners as well.

Benefits of FSUIPC controls assignments:

- offsets allows controlling stuff for which native controls are not accessible in the sim (e.g. transponder modes) or broken (landing lights on/off),

- for control devices with 2- or multi-position switches (e.g. Honeycomb Alpha Yoke) it eliminates the "10-degree heading bug" bug and other similar bugs (trim, altitude setting).

7 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

My new PC is supposed to arrive this Saturday, and the first thing I am going to do is install MSFS 2020.

Hey Bob...I'm genuinely excited for you!

I'd not worry too much about the details at 1st...just get her installed and get used to it a bit....try some things you thing should work based on many years simming...and if they don't head back here and we'll try to get you flying straight. 😉

I've so far managed to get sorted with controllers and such without the payware version of fsuipc...but may be ready to grab it to finish fine tuning some settings that are not perfect right now, but I manage to not crash aircraft on takeoff (or landing), so just enjoying what I have thus far.

There have been a lot of posts and vids about control config...brush up on them while you wait for your machine and take some notes of what you'd like to accomplish.....it'll take a bit to get comfortable with the new sim, but you will. 😉   

I haven't purchased the latest FSUIPC yet but once I upgrade I probably will, MSFS has come a long way when it comes to controller setup but it certainly doesn't offer the flexibility that FSUIPIC did, mind you that I'm comparing to that using FSUIPC with P3D but it was very feature rich, I can't think of a single control I couldn't map.  I'm not sure if it will do the same with MSFS though, I'd love to hear from current users as for a lot of features there still isn't any mapping available even within MSFS, particularly when it comes the likes of the A320 and all possible autopilot switches.  Will FSUIPC give me the ability to map swap between managed mode and selected mode even if the mapping doesn't exist in the sim to begin with, I'd love to know.

If it auto swaps profiles though that alone may be worth it, coz sure you can set it all up in MSFS but swapping is a pita, I have a throttle quadrant, joystick, 2 button boxes and custom mappings on my mouse.  Having to swap 5 device settings for every plane is just not going to happen.

 

 

7 hours ago, stefaandk said:

I haven't purchased the latest FSUIPC yet but once I upgrade I probably will, MSFS has come a long way when it comes to controller setup but it certainly doesn't offer the flexibility that FSUIPIC did, mind you that I'm comparing to that using FSUIPC with P3D but it was very feature rich, I can't think of a single control I couldn't map.  I'm not sure if it will do the same with MSFS though, I'd love to hear from current users as for a lot of features there still isn't any mapping available even within MSFS, particularly when it comes the likes of the A320 and all possible autopilot switches.  Will FSUIPC give me the ability to map swap between managed mode and selected mode even if the mapping doesn't exist in the sim to begin with, I'd love to know.

If it auto swaps profiles though that alone may be worth it, coz sure you can set it all up in MSFS but swapping is a pita, I have a throttle quadrant, joystick, 2 button boxes and custom mappings on my mouse.  Having to swap 5 device settings for every plane is just not going to happen.

 

 

I may be wrong but I think all you should have to do is change the profile you set up for each aircraft before you launch it,  

3 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

I may be wrong but I think all you should have to do is change the profile you set up for each aircraft before you launch it,  

If you are referring FSUIPC, you don't have to do anything after configuring the devices. you start MSFS, select the airplane you want, and go fly. FSUIPC will automatically select the device and configuration you set for that particular airplane, or type of airplane depending on how you configured FSUIPC.

13 minutes ago, Romeo_Tango said:

If you are referring FSUIPC, you don't have to do anything after configuring the devices. you start MSFS, select the airplane you want, and go fly. FSUIPC will automatically select the device and configuration you set for that particular airplane, or type of airplane depending on how you configured FSUIPC.

No I was referring to MSFS,

are there template profiles for single engine prop, twin, airliner etc available for download with FSUIPC?