February 16, 20215 yr https://thehill.com/homenews/news/538991-bill-gates-rich-nations-should-move-to-100-percent-synthetic-beef For me nothing beats rare roast beef. I have a recipe for those who like it rare. Two hours before putting it in the oven season it on both sides with salt, pepper, and curry. Cover with foil and let it sit. Set oven temperature to 375. While oven is heating up wipe the bottom of a skillet with olive oil and over medium heat melt two tablespoons of butter. When the butter is sizzling brown the roast on both sides about 4 minutes on a side. Place the roast on a rack in a backing dish and add about a cup or two of water to the bottom of the dish. Stick a thermometer halfway into the prime rib. When the oven temperature reaches 375 place the baking dish with the prime rib on a rack about half way up the oven. When the meat thermometer registers 125 degrees turn the oven temperature down to 225 degrees. When the meat thermometer registers 135 degrees take the baking dish out of the oven and place the prime rib on a platter and cover with foil for 15. minutes. The Gravy: After you have browned the meat add a cup or two of beef broth to the skillet. Whisk briskly to loosen all of the stuck meat n the bottom of skillet. Keep warm on a low flame until the prime rib is done. After the roast is taken out of the oven pour the leavings left in the baking dish into the gravy skillet. Put a tablespoon of flour into a cup and add a bit of beef broth and with a fork stir it until it is a paste without lumps. Add more beef broth and stir with a fork until you have a slurry. Raise the heat in the skillet to medium and when the mixture is simmering slowly add the flour slurry while whisking until the gravy is the consistency you want. The longer you whisk the better the gravy. Baked or mashed potatoes goes good with this along with corn on the cob. I never buy prime rib roasts. For my wife and I, I ask the butcher to cut a ribeye steak four inches thick. Bon Appetite Noel The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
February 16, 20215 yr Quote I like Bill Gates but I like roast beef more.. But do you like and value the planet more than roast beef? 😁 Would you like to do your bit for your grandchildren and their children? Maybe you could cut down a bit? Every little helps. Edited February 16, 20215 yr by martin-w
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February 16, 20215 yr Author 1 hour ago, martin-w said: Maybe you could cut down a bit? Every little helps Maybe I could cut back from 3 times a month to twice a month. But do you want me to toss out a freezer full of delicious meat? I'm sorry, but I've been a meat eater all my life. I might ask all of you who drive standard automobiles. Would you buy a hybrid or an electric car to do your bit for your grandchildren and their children? Noel The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
February 16, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, martin-w said: But do you like and value the planet more than roast beef? 😁 . No, The planet has cost me over $20,000 in storm damage and insurance premium hikes in the last couple of years. I prefer Beef!
February 16, 20215 yr I first became aware of the environmental impact of beef production about 10 years ago. I haven't eaten beef since and I don't miss it at all. I've found that life goes on with just the potatoes and no steak. Intel 10700K @ 5.1Ghz, Asus Hero Maximus motherboard, Noctua NH-U12A cooler, Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB 3200 MHz RAM, RTX 2060 Super GPU, Cooler Master HAF 932 Tower, Thermaltake 1000W Toughpower PSU, Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit, 100TB of disk storage. Klaatu barada nickto.
February 16, 20215 yr Change usually comes with the next generation, I am 50 now and will probably enjoy my red meat until the day I die, my kids in the other hand can be vegans for all I care, as long as they are happy and healthy and contributing to society. Matthew Kane I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me
February 16, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, birdguy said: But do you want me to toss out a freezer full of delicious meat? No one is saying to waste what you already have. Just that maybe in the future choose an alternative at least some of the time. 1 hour ago, birdguy said: I might ask all of you who drive standard automobiles. Would you buy a hybrid or an electric car to do your bit for your grandchildren and their children? When the price and features are right, definitely. Most likely my next car will either be a hybrid, electric, or maybe even fuel cell. Unfortunately for the moment they don't work well for me personally, but I can see the day when they probably will. Why would one not want less pollution being pumped into the atmosphere? Ignore the climate change issue and just look at the haze hanging over many cities these days. 53 minutes ago, Matthew Kane said: Change usually comes with the next generation When it comes down to it, this is most likely be how it will work out.
February 17, 20215 yr Thanks for the recipe, Noel. I, too, intend to purchase beef and other real meats. That doesn't mean that I won't try the plant-based meat, as long as it is not too much more expensive. By the way, the plants for the meat do have to be grown and it takes resources to do that, so is it so much less resource intensive than raising a cow? I honestly don't know. Conservation is the key to "saving the planet". We should all consume resources in moderation, i.e. not eat big steaks every day, keep the temperature in our buildings reasonable, try to recycle what we can, etc. As long as we practice reasonable conservation and continue to make progress on alternate sources of energy, we'll be fine. There is no reason for alarm or hysteria. We have recently seen what happens when you rely too much on only a couple of energy sources. The green wind turbines froze up and the green solar panels were covered with snow. Green energy is great, but you need clean backups like natural gas and nuclear. Should there be a shortage of beef, or whatever, in the future, then you know what will happen? The price of that scare commodity will increase to the point where fewer people will consume it and will switch to something else. It's Adam Smith's invisible hand at work. Dave Simulator: P3Dv6.1 System Specs: Intel i7 13700K CPU, MSI Mag Z790 Tomahawk Motherboard, 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Video Card, 3x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2 2280 SSDs, Windows 11 Home OS My website for P3D stuff: https://sites.google.com/view/thep3dfiles/home
February 17, 20215 yr The fact that humans have canine teeth slightly longer than other teeth proves that we have long been omnivores who include meat in our diet. To do otherwise now is to declare war against nature and mother earth. A battle that ultimately we will not win. What could possibly go wrong with denying who and what millions of years of evolution have shaped us into being? Our health. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
February 17, 20215 yr 50 minutes ago, dave2013 said: By the way, the plants for the meat do have to be grown and it takes resources to do that, so is it so much less resource intensive than raising a cow? I honestly don't know. You could directly feed quite a few more people by skipping the meat part. Eating red meat is not the most efficient source, especially at the scale done in the US. https://news.cornell.edu/stories/1997/08/us-could-feed-800-million-people-grain-livestock-eat Of course a big part that would help is reducing the common portion sizes in the US to what is actually needed by people to live. Which would probably also help with obesity rates too. 52 minutes ago, dave2013 said: We have recently seen what happens when you rely too much on only a couple of energy sources. The green wind turbines froze up and the green solar panels were covered with snow. Green energy is great, but you need clean backups like natural gas and nuclear. Seems like the biggest problem was actually the natural gas plants failing more than the wind turbines freezing. Quote Some of the energy sources powering the grid were knocked out by the inclement weather, most of which were facilities run by gas, coal or nuclear energy. "Most of the plants that went offline during evening and morning today were fueled by one of those sources," said Dan Woodfin, senior director of system operations at ERCOT. Wind turbines, which provide a much smaller source of energy for the state's power grid, were iced over and also out of commission. https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/energy-environment/2021/02/15/391479/rolling-power-blackouts-in-effect-across-texas-as-massive-winter-storm-drives-demand-for-electricity/
February 17, 20215 yr It's going to be interesting whether climate or global bankruptcy or another nasty pandemic will do us in. I can tell it's not going well from all the Huskies that are in dog jail here.
February 17, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, goates said: Some of the energy sources powering the grid were knocked out by the inclement weather, most of which were facilities run by gas, coal or nuclear energy. "Most of the plants that went offline during evening and morning today were fueled by one of those sources," said Dan Woodfin, senior director of system operations at ERCOT. Wind turbines, which provide a much smaller source of energy for the state's power grid, were iced over and also out of commission. The forced power outages of limited duration occurred in other states as well and were due to excessive power demand that the utilities could not handle. If Texas had coal, gas, and nuclear plants that were out of commission simply due to the cold then they have some serious problems. Dave Simulator: P3Dv6.1 System Specs: Intel i7 13700K CPU, MSI Mag Z790 Tomahawk Motherboard, 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Video Card, 3x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2 2280 SSDs, Windows 11 Home OS My website for P3D stuff: https://sites.google.com/view/thep3dfiles/home
February 17, 20215 yr 3 hours ago, goates said: Eating red meat is not the most efficient source... by skipping the meat part..... would probably also help with obesity rates too. Raw beef liver or even cooked is one of the most nutrition dense superfoods on earth and a portion of Beef has Zero carbs and Zero sugar, how does that contribute to obesity. 100g of Pink Salmon for ex. has 300% of your daily value of natural Vitamin D. Ryzen 5 5600X - Noctua U12A, 32Gb Vengence, Sapphire Pulse 5700xt, WD Black SN750 NVMe SSD
February 17, 20215 yr Author 7 hours ago, Matthew Kane said: Change usually comes with the next generation, I am 50 now and will probably enjoy my red meat until the day I die, my kids in the other hand can be vegans for all I care, as long as they are happy and healthy and contributing to society. I'm for that. My grandkids can start eating fake meat and then my great grandkids will think that's all there is. I'm too old a leopard to change my spots. I think I'll take a filet mignon out of the freezer tonight for dinner tomorrow. Noel The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
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