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Best single engine turboprop for p3d v5.1 - special request

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I am looking for a great single engine turbo prop for p3d v5.1. But in my case I have a special request. I want two things. realistic flight/system  modelling, and here is the big one.. I need a super clear vc panel with clarity on the  vc gauges. Ive been using  sim's  for many years but I always have a hard time getting super clarity and acuity from the vc panel. I am using a Asus 1080ti card and Asus 4k ( although Ive tried both 4k and lesser settings ) . Im my case I always try to get things super clear ( gauges ) in the vc but to me most gauges are generally or somewhat  blurry. Ive also tried with mipmaps off and on but to me there is little difference with respect to gauge acuity

So to recap; 

I am looking for a new single  turbo prop and if it can have amazing clarity and acuity with respect to vc gauges that would be a home run for me

I can confirm that I have rarely seen incredibly clear vc gauges in ga aircraft in fsx or p3d.. I do find that xplane gauges on 'add on" aircraft  are  a bit better than fsx and p3dv5, but I really like flying the p3dv5.1 product. . I have found that pmdg  Boeing and aerosoft airbus products are really good with respect to vc gauges. That is the level of clarity im looking for in a single turboprop application

Thoughts 

Thank you 

 Peter

 

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13 minutes ago, pkofman said:

So to recap; 

I am looking for a new single  turbo prop and if it can have amazing clarity and acuity with respect to vc gauges that would be a home run for me. I have found that pmdg  Boeing and aerosoft airbus products are really good with respect to vc gauges. That is the level of clarity im looking for in a single turboprop application

good luck with that, I don't think one exists.

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A2A aircrafts gauges are super clear IMHO but they are not turboprop AFAIK.

Me too I am fan of super clear vc panel.

Agree with you Peter, regarding PMDG and Aerosoft bus regarding gauge clarity.

FS2024

Former Real Air Simulations was also specialist of crystal clear gauges. Besides they were pioneer in fluid analog gauges movement in the days of FS2004/FSX.

FS2024

Carenado‘s Pilatus PC-12 - with Bert‘s mods. Great VC and believable flight dynamics, but somewhat simplified systems.

Felix

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Interestingly I had the realair lear jets back in the day. They were awesome and a bit retro ( even an 8 track player.. imagine that??!! ) people may not remember such retro stuff . But they did have very clear vc gauges. I don't know why the vc gauges are  so hard to model, but its either my old eyes or it must be very difficult to get the clarity. I particularly find g1000, aspen and glass panels tough to read in the vc mode.   However glass must be easier to model in 2d because , as an example, I a use the f1 750 gtn  Addon and in 2d or as a pop up window it is really clear. 

Lastly I could buy a  Carenado turbo prop. But, to me all of their stuff feels almost identical and I can't read their vc. in panel glass without struggling

Peter

I only know of two turboprops in P3Dv5 that I'd consider coming close to realistic w/r/t systems and flight dynamics, and neither are singles. 

One's the Milviz Beech Kingair 350i, with a good rendition of the Collins Proline 21 integrated avionics suite, and the other is the Majestic Dehavilland DHC8 Q400, a turboprop small airliner.  Panel clarity, systems depth and flight dynamics on both are good.  A critical (for me, anyway) component of a decent turboprop simulation is engine/prop sounds, which are hopelessly boogered-up on the majority of turboprop add-ons for the ESP platforms (e.g. FSX and P3D) , which generally try to jury-rig the default recip-based engine sound system in the sim.  A turboprop does not change pitch when torque is changed...it changes pitch when prop RPM is changed.  It changes in intensity with torque changes.  The Q400 does this well, the Milviz 350 somewhat less so, but still passable.

The Realair Turbine Duke is another, but alas, it is no longer sold.

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Thank you Bert. not sure I understand . Do I purchase the Carenado pc12 and then modify. Where and who publishes a mod? please advise further.  Thank you.  Peter

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@w6kd was the majestic modified or adapted for p3dv5.1 (hf1).?

Just now, pkofman said:

@w6kd was the majestic modified or adapted for p3dv5.1 (hf1).?

It's compatible as-sold.  No mods necessary with the latest version.

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

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Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

43 minutes ago, pkofman said:

Thank you Bert. not sure I understand . Do I purchase the Carenado pc12 and then modify. Where and who publishes a mod? please advise further.  Thank you.  Peter

Correct.

1. Purchase and install the Carenado PC12

2. Run the F1GTN.. exe in the PC12 folder to install the GTN 750

3. Request the user mods via PM to me with your email address

4. Install the mods (instructions included)

Bert

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1 hour ago, Bert Pieke said:

Correct.

1. Purchase and install the Carenado PC12

2. Run the F1GTN.. exe in the PC12 folder to install the GTN 750

3. Request the user mods via PM to me with your email address

4. Install the mods (instructions included)

@Bert Pieke thanks you. noticed you are canadian. where are you located?. pm me if your not comfortable saying here. I am in Toronto fly out of cykz thank you

7 minutes ago, pkofman said:

@Bert Pieke thanks you. noticed you are canadian. where are you located?. pm me if your not comfortable saying here. I am in Toronto fly out of cykz thank you

As you can tell from my posts, I live near CAM3, in Maple Bay, Vancouver Island.

Bert

I am surprised that no one has mentioned the Carenado PA46 Malibu Jet Prop.  I pulled it out of the hangar recently and logged about 10 hours and it left me asking myself why I had neglected it.  I have it configured with a pair of GNS gauges and the RXP WX gauge.

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