Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
Isaiah53six

Microsoft/Asobo proved they're pandering to console users

Recommended Posts

34 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

What are you smoking?

Not the first time hes uttering stuff he knows nothing about.


AMD Ryzen 5900X / Asus Strix B550 F Gaming Wifi / Powercolor AMD 6800XT Red Devil / 32GB Gskill Trident Neo DDR4 3600 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / EVGA Supernova 750 GT PSU / Lian Li Lancool II Mesh Performance /

Asus VG34VQL3A / Schiit Bifrost DAC+ Schiit Asgard AMP /  Sennheiser HD 558 / Thrustmaster T.16000M + TFRP Rudders

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Aristoteles said:

What controller are you using Styckxx? that is a bummer, for sure.

Xbox Elite version 2. 

I kid you not. Before the update 

Turn off parking brake = Y+B

After after  = Left on the directional pad

Before update

Flaps: LB/RB

After update: Up or down or the directional pad

And that is just two examples how PC version = ported console version 

 

Edited by styckx

ASUS ROG STRIX Z390-E GAMING / i9-9900k @ 4.7 all cores w/ NOCTUA NH-D15S / 2080ti / 32GB G.Skill 3200 RIPJAWS / 1TB Evo SSD / 500GB Evo SSD /  2x 3TB HDD / CORSAIR CRYSTAL 570X / IPSG 850W 80+ PLATINUM / Dual 4k Monitors 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well, I have been aggravated with Thrustmaster mapping changes in the past, after SUs, so have been my friends. I know how it feels. And there was no XboX , console hate back in those days.

Edited by Aristoteles

 

 

Iñigo Bildarratz

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well, at least this thread's title clearly indicates what the content will be - though, as is typical, it's often stated in the most obnoxious and wrong-headed way possible.  Asobo has made a big leap forward in what they can do in terms of optimizations, but as they've said many times before, that sort of work will span many updates.  I'm sure they'll give options or otherwise get back to enabling the supposed "perfect world" we were in pre-SU5 for those with heavy-duty hardware, but for the majority of folks I think this new default mode works wonderfully.  The whole anti-console bit is getting super old, however.  Optimizations made to enable XBox also make the PC experience better for many, many PC users.  Stop with the snobbery word not allowed.

  • Like 6
  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Probably going to go against the grain here; not tried it on my PC yet but I've just got it all installed on my fresh out-the-box Series S and I'm blown away, it's epic. Controls are going to take a bit of getting used to as particularly camera and viewpoints as I'm not used to using a controller but I can see myself flying a lot more on Xbox going forward.

  • Like 2

Tom Wright

Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020) | Intel Core i7 4770k @ 4.3GHz | 16GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM | GTX 1060 6GB | Samsung 860 EVO 500GB | Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Sidestick + Quadrant | Xbox Series S

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

To be a bit more optimistic and positive:

I'm really happy that MSFS is reaching more people, both on Xbox and PC.

People with completely normal hardware will be able to enjoy a fluid and optimized flight simulator experience. That sort of thing used to be reserved for those who maxed out their credit cards (*cough)

I think this update will change some of the reputation of MSFS as being the new "But can it run Crysis" game. This is really important for those of us who are worried the focus will be all Xbox from now on.
We need to spread the word that the simulator is now much more efficient and optimized on PC. It's a very important way of increasing the userbase on PC.

That being said, we should be allowed to be critical of features/bugs that don't work as intended, of running Xbox optimized code for DX12 on a DX11 PC. 
Some people seem to almost get offended that people aren't always having the best experience and are lashing out in the forums. Just because you don't experience these bugs, doesn't mean they're not there. Just be polite and patient. Not arrogant. 

  • Like 4

R7 5800X3D | RTX 4080 OC 16 GB | 64 GB 3600 | 3440x1440 G-Sync | Logitech Pro Throttles Rudder Yoke Panels | Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS | TrackIR 5 | Oculus Rift S
Experience with Flight Simulator since early 1990s

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Tom Wright said:

Probably going to go against the grain here; not tried it on my PC yet but I've just got it all installed on my fresh out-the-box Series S and I'm blown away, it's epic. Controls are going to take a bit of getting used to as particularly camera and viewpoints as I'm not used to using a controller but I can see myself flying a lot more on Xbox going forward.

My guess is Asobo would be delighted if all users moved to X box. 


 

BOBSK8             MSFS 2020 ,    ,PMDG 737-600-800 FSLTL , TrackIR ,  Avliasoft EFB2  ,  ATC  by PF3  ,

A Pilots LIfe V2 ,  CLX PC , Auto FPS, ACTIVE Sky FS,  PMDG DC6 , A2A Comanche, Fenix A320, Milviz C 310

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

My guess is Asobo would be delighted if all users moved to X box. 

I don't plan to move completely to Xbox, the PC still has its place. I can't imagine doing an airline flight with the Airbus from point A to point B on the Xbox for example, the controller makes it too fiddly and I need my charts open alongside etc. But for VFR flying, low and slow and enjoying the view, the Xbox is perfect.

  • Like 1

Tom Wright

Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020) | Intel Core i7 4770k @ 4.3GHz | 16GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM | GTX 1060 6GB | Samsung 860 EVO 500GB | Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Sidestick + Quadrant | Xbox Series S

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Republic3D said:

To be a bit more optimistic and positive:

 ...

 
Some people seem to almost get offended that people aren't always having the best experience and are lashing out in the forums. Just because you don't experience these bugs, doesn't mean they're not there. Just be polite and patient. Not arrogant. 

Agreed, sharing issues politely works great, and helps the developers understand what else needs fixing.  Threads with obvious clickbait titles and laden with bizarre Xbox conspiracy theories aren't really that, though, right?

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

My guess is Asobo would be delighted if all users moved to X box. 

Why? Whre do you think 90% of the XboX FS users will be in 2 months? Spending money in the Marketplace? They need a big sale boost, and that's all, then, they know it;s us PC users who will continue to spend money on th sim, not console users.

Edited by Aristoteles

 

 

Iñigo Bildarratz

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So theres no way to avoid this update? I dont have it yet. My game is running super smooth, no CTDs at all scenery looks good. Reading other comments Im afraid to start it now lol.

Will see what happens when I use the firewall to block MSFS from internet access, hope it still works.  I dont mind flying with degraded visuals. Even THAT will look a gazillion times better than FSX on my ancient system. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 hours ago, FSUK_86 said:

I don’t no if they can see that they are starting to destroy there own game each patch, when this game came out night lighting was perfect LOD was perfect, but each patch it seems the game is getting downgraded for some reason (xbox)

Thats how to boil a frog


MSFS Alpha tester on W10 Pro x64. Hardware: AMD 5900X 12 core CPU. Cooler Master ML360R AIO, Asus X570-E mobo, Asus Strix 3090 24GB gfx card, G.Skill TridentZ 64GB (4x16) DDR4-3600 RAM, Samsung 970 250GB SSD (OS), Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 pcie-4 NVMe SSD (MSFS install). EVGA 850w Gold cert PSU, CUK Continuum full ATX tower.  43" Sceptre 4K display. VR: HP Reverb G2.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wow what a thread lol. Aside from the frequent CTDs and temp bug, I'm extremely happy with this update. I've genuinely NEVER had such a fluid and stutter-free flight sim experience from cold and dark to de boarding. I flew an arrival into KEWR with everything on Ultra in the FBW A320NX and never dipped below 45 FPS. Amazing. Absolutely unreal. I remember spending HOURS tweaking FSX and X-Plane to get even 25 FPS in modestly built up areas to no avail. 

Are there things that can be improved for PC users? Yes, and I'm sure Asobo will get there. We can only go up from here. 

  • Like 4
  • Upvote 2

Former Child, Current Adult

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

  • Tom Allensworth,
    Founder of AVSIM Online


  • Flight Simulation's Premier Resource!

    AVSIM is a free service to the flight simulation community. AVSIM is staffed completely by volunteers and all funds donated to AVSIM go directly back to supporting the community. Your donation here helps to pay our bandwidth costs, emergency funding, and other general costs that crop up from time to time. Thank you for your support!

    Click here for more information and to see all donations year to date.
×
×
  • Create New...