August 7, 20214 yr Sitting here waiting this out a bit. In position to perform a totally fresh install but wish to hold off, how do I best say this, until the fixes are coded into the installation itself, not added on as an installation followed by a separate hotfix. Like putting a new tire on a car, a tire that has never been punctured. LOL Anyone have experience with this yet? Edited August 7, 20214 yr by fppilot Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
August 7, 20214 yr Sure, Since I had a new PC I installed fresh when the V5 came out. Then I applied the 2 subsequent hot fixes Regards, AHS712D Alvaro Escorcia OMAA AirHispania virtual airlines AHS712D Alvaro Escorcia KSGR/OMAAAirHispania Virtual AirlineMSFS / ASUS TUF Gaming F15-Refresh-144Hz / 11GenIntel (R)Core (TM) i7-11800H NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX3060GPU / 1TB-Samsung SSD / 32GB-RAM SAMSUNG-SmartMonitor-M7-32"4K
August 7, 20214 yr I did one the other day, no change still had issues. But since i have been flying the latest FBWA320NX dev version, and alongside putting the sim into development mode every flight has been fine. If i try it without the sim in Dev mode i get a CTD as soon as i press Fly! AMD Ryzen 7 5800x3d, MSI X570 Pro, 32 gb DDR4 3600 ram, Gigabyte 6800 16gb GPU, 1x 2tb Samsung NvMe , 1x 2tb Sabrent NvME, 1x Crucial 4tb Nvme M2 Drive
August 7, 20214 yr Author 28 minutes ago, wlix261 said: Sure, Since I had a new PC I installed fresh when the V5 came out. Then I applied the 2 subsequent hot fixes Regards, AHS712D Alvaro Escorcia OMAA AirHispania virtual airlines 24 minutes ago, Car147 said: I did one the other day, no change still had issues. But since i have been flying the latest FBWA320NX dev version, and alongside putting the sim into development mode every flight has been fine. If i try it without the sim in Dev mode i get a CTD as soon as i press Fly! Thank both of you however each of you has installed and then later applied hot fixes. My inquiry was if anyone has done a fresh install where the install process is now up to date and does not then require applying a hot fix. Hope that is more clear now. Edited August 7, 20214 yr by fppilot Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
August 7, 20214 yr 24 minutes ago, Car147 said: I did one the other day, no change still had issues. But since i have been flying the latest FBWA320NX dev version, and alongside putting the sim into development mode every flight has been fine. If i try it without the sim in Dev mode i get a CTD as soon as i press Fly! Sorry to hear that my friend - I did a new install 4 days ago no ctd's since smooth and faster menus and loading Rich Sennett
August 7, 20214 yr It makes no difference, I've still got it installed from launch day and it's just been updated/patched as each update has been released. Never had any problems, at the end of the day the version number is identical whether its an original install that's been patched or whether it's a fresh install. I see no benefit in completely uninstalling and forcing a redownload of the complete sim over just letting it update incrementally. Tom Wright, UK PPL(A) SEP + Night Rating + IMC/IR(R) Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM | 16GB RTX 4080 Super | 2x 2TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2 | Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Sidestick + Quadrant | Logitech G Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals | WinCTRL Airbus FCU + EFIS + MCDU
August 7, 20214 yr Author 18 minutes ago, Tom Wright said: It makes no difference, I've still got it installed from launch day and it's just been updated/patched as each update has been released. Never had any problems, at the end of the day the version number is identical whether its an original install that's been patched or whether it's a fresh install. I see no benefit in completely uninstalling and forcing a redownload of the complete sim over just letting it update incrementally. Tom. Thank you. I am genuinely quite happy for you. Your experience and mine do not at all match. I understand. It is obvious here in these forums that experiences vary widely. My experience over the years with software and subsequent patches is what drives me to a fresh or virgin install. I am just looking for indication that Asobo has caught up with a fresh installation that does not include the need for a hot fix. At this time it could still be an fresh installation based on SU5 with two hot fixes. Not at all what I want! Edited August 7, 20214 yr by fppilot Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
August 7, 20214 yr 35 minutes ago, fppilot said: Thank both of you however each of you has installed and then later applied hot fixes. My inquiry was if anyone has done a fresh install where the install process is now up to date and does not then require applying a hot fix. Hope that is more clear now. I just finished a clean install (6hrs), it installed 1.18.15.0 which is the latest version John
August 7, 20214 yr 22 minutes ago, Tom Wright said: It makes no difference, I've still got it installed from launch day and it's just been updated/patched as each update has been released. Never had any problems, at the end of the day the version number is identical whether its an original install that's been patched or whether it's a fresh install. I see no benefit in completely uninstalling and forcing a redownload of the complete sim over just letting it update incrementally. I did a reinstall months ago because at the time I had a CTD problem. Made zero difference, waste of time for me.
August 7, 20214 yr Author 1 minute ago, johnh1984 said: I just finished a clean install (6hrs), it installed 1.18.15.0 which is the latest version Thank you John. I will now install tonight. To others. Thank you also and no more replies needed for my question. This is what I was looking for. Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
August 7, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, fppilot said: Thank you John. I will now install tonight. To others. Thank you also and no more replies needed for my question. This is what I was looking for. Took me 2 hours to do a fresh install fyi Steam edition - make sure its in fact uninstalled no MSFS folders left behind or may be a waste of time - Steam edition does not delete all of the folders I had to do it manually after using windows customary uninstall procedure Edited August 7, 20214 yr by Richard Sennett Rich Sennett
August 7, 20214 yr Author 10 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: I did a reinstall months ago because at the time I had a CTD problem. Made zero difference, waste of time for me. 7 minutes ago, Richard Sennett said: Took me 2 hours to do a fresh install fyi Thanks both. Bobsk8, I did a MSFS "reset" routine about three weeks ago so did not do anything first to uninstall. Took a couple of hours. Following that I was experiencing totally different issues than before the reset. That is what lead me in my current direction. I have in the interim updated my nVidia driver, found that I needed to switch HT on, and have made a couple of other tweaks. Next may be to stress test my system, particularly system and video memory. But I have no issues with my system other that with MSFS, and I do without issues fly an older sim with lots of addons and let's say vintage photoreal scenery. Fresh virgin install is my goal. Then see what that brings. Edited August 7, 20214 yr by fppilot Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
August 7, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, fppilot said: Thanks both. Bobsk8, I did the "reset" about three weeks ago so did not do anything first to uninstall. Took a couple of hours. Following that I was experiencing totally different issues than before the reset. That is what lead me in my current direction. I have in the interim updated my nVidia driver, found that I needed to switch HT on, and have made a couple of other tweaks. Next may be to stress test my system, particularly system and video memory. But I have no issues with my system other that with MSFS, and I do without issues fly an older sim with lots of addons and let's say vintage photoreal scenery. Fresh virgin install is my goal. Then see what that brings. When I was getting the CTDs back a couple of months ago I contacted the SI that I got he PC from, and remotely they did every stress test they could think of, and nothing showed up faulty. They finally swapped out the AMD card for a Nvdia card and the PSU to go with the new GPU, and haven't had a CTD since. Edited August 7, 20214 yr by Bobsk8
August 7, 20214 yr Author 10 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: When I was getting the CTDs back a couple of months ago I contacted the SI that I got he PC from, and remotely they did every stress test they could think of, and nothing showed up faulty. They finally swapped out the AMD card for a Nvdia card and the PSU to go with the new GPU, and haven't had a CTD since. My issues have been freezes that have been limited at first to the avionics, including with up to date WT mods, and more recently freeze ups of MSFS itself. My system and OS has not been affected. Just the sim or the avionics in the sim. Avionics experience just like what was described by BertP in a post yesterday or the day prior. MFD freezes, usually when executing a step in either the flight plan page or approach page. All MFD functions freeze. Map, DME and time to, engine monitoring. All. PFD continues to work, but any foray into its modes then cause it too to freeze. Standby or backup instruments continue to function. I have always kept my avionics mods up to date to the minute. I have also experienced some CTD issues, but I identified two addon scenery items that I suspect. Removing one of them allowed me to complete a 4.5 hour GA flight that I could only get an hour into before. Likely caused the CTD as I passed close enough for the system to load that addon. It was an enroute loaded only for a looksee. Do not see any indication my CTDs and avionics/MSFS freezes were related to each other. Edited August 7, 20214 yr by fppilot Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
August 7, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, fppilot said: My issues have been freezes that have been limited at first to the avionics This is unlikely to improve with a reinstall, since WT are still actively developing their G1000. It is not bulletproof yet.. Bert
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