Another for never using it or ATC it's that flawed.

1 hour ago, SierraDelta said:

If only people would learn to read posts in full before replying ... 3 unnecessary posts in this thread alone.

You an admin?

8 minutes ago, Car147 said:

Another for never using it or ATC it's that flawed.

I have all that garbage turned off. 

Yet another example of a thoroughly misleading thread title.

Just leave AI comms off until you’re ready.

Edited August 11, 20214 yr by Tuskin38

Didn't know it did that with AI Comms on because I never use that option, but I'm assuming it kind of makes sense to push back automatically since you are sort of leaving things to the the sim, however, the fact that it pushes when the avionics come on is ludicrous, if that is indeed what it does.

To be honest though, pushback in sims has always left quite a bit to be desired, even though MSFS has had a bit of a stab at improving it. I get that they put it on the ATC menu, since that is basically a communication menu for the aeroplane even though in practice it's basically naff all to do with ATC other than issuing the clearance to push, but it still leaves a bit to be desired even considering that. FS2Crew's Pushback Express improves things a fair bit, since it does sort of go through the TCO procedure leading up to the push, and lets you control the tug if you want to, but it is still a bit hampered by having to work with the sim's procedures to some extent.

I would pay serious money for an add-on which did pushes realistically, and which used a tug and bar instead of a lifter tug. I kind of hope that FS2Crew add-on might be able to incorporate tugs with bars.

I understand why MSFS (and pretty much every other sim) depicts lifter tugs, since it only requires one pivot point to be simulated, but in reality tug and bar pushes are far more common and even though the shear pins can go on a bar, it's still a better method than a lifter tug; you only have to have a lifter tug to break down on a taxiway still connected to the aeroplane to know that, where it leaves you unable to move the plane and unable to release the tug either, which can potentially shut down an airport if it's on a critical taxiway with no alternate taxi route!

3 hours ago, DAD said:

always here. happens if AI Comm is enabled. Is that disabled on your side? Would explain why auto pushback is not initiated for you

Yes its OFF

How can you ask people to vote for an option that can be turned off.................🙄

Edited August 11, 20214 yr by Nyxx

6 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

Yes its OFF

How can you ask people to vote for an option that can be turned off.................🙄

LOL   Funny!!!!

8 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

Yes its OFF

How can you ask people to vote for an option that can be turned off.................🙄

I think the vote is for more control of how the function works when ON. So that the AI pilot only calls for pushback when you're ready for it, instead of immediately.

15 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

Yes its OFF

How can you ask people to vote for an option that can be turned off.................🙄

Well, you can if the option is somewhat flawed to the point that it could do with a change, which sounds like it is the case. I'd perhaps try turning it off until the pre-taxi checklist is complete and then turning it on. It's not like you're chatting to ATC much until after that point anyway.

A better alternative would be the one I use, which is not having any of the sims auto features on, but using Multi Crew Experience's AI co-pilot to handle ATC, which you can start or stop via voice at any time you want by simply saying stuff like: 'you handle ATC' or 'I'll handle ATC'. Multi Crew Experience is one of the best add-ons you can get; it continually demonstrates that it's worth the price in situations such as these. It even makes the default ATC pretty tolerable to use. Can't recommend it highly enough if you like doing airliner flights.

I have just developed the habit of turning AI comm off before I shut the plane's engines and avionics off, then when I load a new flight prior to reenabling AI comm, I execute pushback myself and then reenable AI comm.  I really like AI comm and use it always.  I also you AI pilot after landing to get to the gate as I can't stand the blue arrows to find the gate, and no way to toggle them on/off w/o getting out of the flight and into AI Assistance.  I hope they work on this I would like to taxi to gate once again.

I voted though because it would be best not to have AI comm jump the gun, then I wouldn't need to go thru my ritual.

10 minutes ago, Noel said:

I have just developed the habit of turning AI comm off before I shut the plane's engines and avionics off, then when I load a new flight prior to reenabling AI comm, I execute pushback myself and then reenable AI comm.  I really like AI comm and use it always.  I also you AI pilot after landing to get to the gate as I can't stand the blue arrows to find the gate, and no way to toggle them on/off w/o getting out of the flight and into AI Assistance.  I hope they work on this I would like to taxi to gate once again.

I voted though because it would be best not to have AI comm jump the gun, then I wouldn't need to go thru my ritual.

If you had a ATC program that worked like PF3, you would get taxi instructions from gate to runway and runway to gate, and you would not need the blue arrows. 

Is AI Comms the default ATC? Or what are you guys talking about?

I've never been pushed back automatically.

If you pull down the Flight Assistant while in flight you can toggle "AI Radio Communictions' on or off.  If it's on when you start the electrics in your plan and you're at a gate where there is a tug they often will start the pushback procedure w/o your requesting it, because your Flight Assistant is doing it for you.

41 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

If you had a ATC program that worked like PF3, you would get taxi instructions from gate to runway and runway to gate, and you would not need the blue arrows. 

That sounds ideal.  Do find it works well at complex terminals?  Do you ever make mistakes following instructions?  Early on when I saw the heinous blue arrows I put in a Wishlist request for discreet one, even an embedded subtle highlight in the middle of the correct route, and of course a key press to toggle on/off.  I think it could be done so it was barely noticed.