Just now, PilotPete99 said:

This is unfortunately my fear. Although MSFS looks great out of the box, the addons really add a lot. Of course, I disabled my addons a couple of days ago when I couldn’t get to the start screen without a CTD. In the end I needed to reinstall MSFS. I just wonder if we are asking too much from our hardware to run a program like MSFS and adding all of the bells and whistles in addition. I can’t even imagine what problems may arise when PMDG Aircraft get released. I don’t think any of us know how that will turn out.

Cheers, Pete

The issue seems to be every time they run an SU, many add ons are broken. That includes the ones that are purchased from the market Place which are not in the community folder. Too much room for problems in my opinion. 

1 hour ago, Mace said:

i'd test your memory:

https://www.memtest86.com/

Also I would download and install the newest nvidia driver (if you have an nvidia video card)

https://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

 

Thanks,i'll have a look later.

47 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

The issue seems to be every time they run an SU, many add ons are broken. That includes the ones that are purchased from the market Place which are not in the community folder. Too much room for problems in my opinion. 

Yes, this is why one of the first ways to troubleshoot is to remove add-ons.

24 minutes ago, Mace said:

Yes, this is why one of the first ways to troubleshoot is to remove add-ons.

Hi,

Yes, but we have a whole year buying payware add-ons or downloading hundreds of freeware! Now they are broken. What are going to do with them? 

And every update the issue gets worse. I can't remember any similar situation with FSX or P3D!

Regards.

 

3 minutes ago, John Fields said:

Hi,

Yes, but we have a whole year buying payware add-ons or downloading hundreds of freeware! Now they are broken. What are going to do with them? 

And every update the issue gets worse. I can't remember any similar situation with FSX or P3D!

Regards.

 

I feel your pain, not because it's my case but because is pretty much what I read across the forums :-/ 

My only hope is that ASOBO continues to solve the quirks with the platform and that, sooner than later, we can have a stable sim ...

12 hours ago, PilotPete99 said:

Just did a test flight in the CRJ from Lvfr KMIA to Lvfr KFLL (literally a 10 minute flight) and crashed (CTD) on final. This is exhausting. With a full time job and a family, I don’t have the time to deal with this. My hardware is far better than what is required, so I am not overly confident in the future as we get more complex addons. I don’t get paid to troubleshoot for Microsoft, so I hope they get this figured out.
 

Cheers, Pete

I have the same issue as I mentioned in another thread. I never had CTDs in MSFS until few days ago. The only thing I remember that was installed lately was a Windows update. Did you install any Windows updates lately? Besides that, the CRJ was updated and that is it as far as changes on my computer go. I just don't buy it's a hardware related issue - not after almost one year of using MSFS without issues.

31 minutes ago, John Fields said:

Hi,

Yes, but we have a whole year buying payware add-ons or downloading hundreds of freeware! Now they are broken. What are going to do with them? 

And every update the issue gets worse. I can't remember any similar situation with FSX or P3D!

Regards.

 

This is why tools like Addon Linker are so useful.  You can disable all of them with a click.

FSX didn't really have this problem because it was a non-changing platform after circa 2007 or so with Acceleration, or after circa 2013-14 with FSX:SE.

P3D definitely has this problem too, add-ons broken by updates, requiring a patch or update themselves.  Look at the Milviz radar for example.

There are a lot of things with MSFS that some people here proselytized to us that we would not have to deal with.  Yet those same problems are still present today.

1 hour ago, John Fields said:

Hi,

Yes, but we have a whole year buying payware add-ons or downloading hundreds of freeware! Now they are broken. What are going to do with them? 

And every update the issue gets worse. I can't remember any similar situation with FSX or P3D!

Regards.

 

This is exactly the issue. I fail to understand why some folks try to normalize this. These problems will likely continue to manifest themselves.

Cheers, Pete

1 hour ago, Tomaz Drnovsek said:

I have the same issue as I mentioned in another thread. I never had CTDs in MSFS until few days ago. The only thing I remember that was installed lately was a Windows update. Did you install any Windows updates lately? Besides that, the CRJ was updated and that is it as far as changes on my computer go. I just don't buy it's a hardware related issue - not after almost one year of using MSFS without issues.

I completely agree. I did install some Windows updates very recently, and I tend to install them once they become available. In the past, this never caused issues, and I’ve been simming for 20+ years. Considering it is a Microsoft program, it makes even less sense that the updates can break MSFS. However, it may very well be causing issues as others have mentioned as well.

Cheers, Pete

Edited August 21, 20214 yr by PilotPete99

I tend to do a quick check for Windows updates right before I run MSFS just to make sure I'm current and for peice of mind that it won't run again while I'm simming.

Regards

bs

Growing pains.  I do feel sorry for the developers that have to update their products every 2 months.

13 hours ago, PilotPete99 said:

I’m just gonna throw this out there: If I have a computer less than a year old, and several programs that work without issue, I think it’s safe to assume I don’t have an issue with my PC. If I am having issues with a specific program, and I have to spend time I don’t have to figure out what is causing that program to malfunction, then in my opinion the issue lies with that program. Microsoft makes the operating system, and Microsoft makes MSFS. Why should I have to search for solutions? I am an accountant, not an IT specialist. I don’t have the time nor expertise to dig through logs and try to interpret what is happening. I know you are all trying to help, and I appreciate that. The bottom line is that this is a piece of entertainment software that should function properly with a number of different setups. As I said before, I have very limited time to use MSFS, and certainly even less time to try to figure out why it is not working properly for me. I feel sometimes we all settle for this scenario and make excuses for the developer. I hope over time these problems are ironed out. Thanks again to all of you for trying to assist me in resolving these issues.

Cheers, Pete

Pete, I have to agree with you here.  The log is essentially useless as it will almost invariably point to the same non-descript exception error.  They are always the same for many if not all of us, upon researching this error code the possible events is far to broad that it tells nothing.  TLDR: dont do the log thing, meaningless. 

2 hours ago, Tomaz Drnovsek said:

I have the same issue as I mentioned in another thread. I never had CTDs in MSFS until few days ago. The only thing I remember that was installed lately was a Windows update. Did you install any Windows updates lately? Besides that, the CRJ was updated and that is it as far as changes on my computer go. I just don't buy it's a hardware related issue - not after almost one year of using MSFS without issues.

interesting, same here, 3 CTDs/freeze out of 5 flights since I did a windows update last week.

1 minute ago, Mike S KPDX said:

interesting, same here, 3 CTDs/freeze out of 5 flights since I did a windows update last week.

I mean, it can very well be a coincidence since Windows updates are very common but I really don't remember changing anything else. I was also on vacation so I didn't use the computer at all.  

5 minutes ago, Tomaz Drnovsek said:

I mean, it can very well be a coincidence since Windows updates are very common but I really don't remember changing anything else. I was also on vacation so I didn't use the computer at all.  

That’s funny, I was also on vacation and when I came back, MSFS was broken. Very strange it is.

Cheers, Pete