This is the best state MSFS has ever been in

[Shack95 2,658]

18 minutes ago, Noel said:

Wow, gorgeous, but that was not from the sim!  Or was it?

The first screenshot is from the release version, the second after WU6 and the 3rd is a photo. 

[Waldo Pepper 1,953]

1 hour ago, BIGSKY said:

Except for the 49 Payware airports that I stupidly purchased on the marketplace,never again.....

Edit,they don't work...

I bought BIIS on sale 3 weeks ago from the market place.   The first flight was pink runway textures.   The second flight had the loading bar freeze at around 98%.    I decided to restart the sim and uninstall it from content manager,  and the sim took twice as long to reach the main menu when the sim started.   All from one airport.   /I uninstalled it.    Decided to download it again yesterday,  still broken.  

I bought AWD's TNCM months ago,  it crashes the sim when I load a flight there.   Went looking for a fix and soon found out that people have been experiencing the same thing ctd's, for months.   The community posted a fix months ago,  but it's dev's haven't lifted a finger.

I'm talking in May of this year.  https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/tncm-tffg-issues/402759/2

I am ultra selective now when it comes to any airport touching my sim.   I'm definitely not buying another from the marketplace.   Honestly,  it's made me decide that I don't need any of them.   The only airports I install now,  are the best of the best SU5 compatible freeware.  And I look at the file structure first.

Addons are like junk food. Some of it looks tasty,  but ultimately it's often what people put in their bodies that makes them sick.

I support Asobo,  but I think it's undeniably a form of negligence for Microsoft to sell content in the marketplace which causes CTD's due to rudimentary file structure errors that remain uncorrected.     Even automated software should be able to find basic file structure errors such as that.   At very least,  it shouldn't be a major task for low level hire.   It's inexcusable,   and illogical because they're only bringing heat on themselves.

[Noel 4,502]

21 minutes ago, Shack95 said:

The first screenshot is from the release version, the second after WU6 and the 3rd is a photo. 

Good Lord!  Switzerland?  I've been flying the 787 lately having just discovered it but time to do some VFR it would appear!

[simon747 185]

Agreed; a good update.🍻

[Car147 2,279]

Asobo really have made a great stride forward both with performance and the stunning visuals are back. Hopefully things are progressing for the various devs, and stability remains.

[edpatino 1,964]

Don't start to speak too soon. If you're familiar enough with some of your add-on airports, you'll start noticing that several objects are missing, like lightpoles, buildings, etc., after this update.

I'm talking about default objects (default Asobo assets), not custom 3D objects.

Look carefully. I think I'm not the only one... good luck!

[RobJC 2,069]

55 minutes ago, Noel said:

To me, it's always been headed in the right direction even thru its various fits and spurts.  It's just a massive effort that takes time to fully develop that's been obvious from day 1.  What is very polished today, and it is by far the biggest piece to get right be it on console or PC:  the core scenery engine.  The rest, the SDK, fine-tuning flight models, and even the weather to a considerable degree, are smaller pieces to have to get to a fully developed state.  It makes me feel good to finally hear so many positive comments for a change to help offset the litany of hysterical reactions when things aren't perfect, or go back a step or two.  It must be so hard for project managers and individual programmers who pour their hearts out to code something well to tune into some of the threads here full of 90% derogatory unappreciative comments about the people running the show and producing the product at Asobo.   

I agree. From day one you could see where this was headed. We just needed to see the commitment and the tenacity to get it done. The team have shown that from the beginning. Reading the negative comments non stop on this and the official MSFS forums has really been frustrating, and frankly shocking. Talk about entitled attitudes. It's embarrassing. 

[OSM 683]

MSFS 2020 incredible simulator. Look at these waves in 4K!!! 😃👍

 

Edited September 9, 2021 by OSM

[pmplayer 9,462]

7 minutes ago, edpatino said:

Don't start to speak too soon. If you're familiar enough with some of your add-on airports, you'll start noticing that several objects are missing, like lightpoles, buildings, etc., after this update.

I'm talking about default objects (default Asobo assets), not custom 3D objects.

Look carefully. I think I'm not the only one... good luck!

I think all this bigger and small things since SU5 get mostly fixed witH SU6 because this is about for sutch things as it says; Sim Update in this case 6 - hopefully..

cheers 😉

Edited September 9, 2021 by pmplayer

[Shack95 2,658]

32 minutes ago, Noel said:

Good Lord!  Switzerland?  I've been flying the 787 lately having just discovered it but time to do some VFR it would appear!

Yes, the images show the three mountains Eiger, Mönch and Jungfrau (left to right). I mainly fly tubeliners as well but since the update I‘ve only been doing VFR sightseeing. 

[abrams_tank 7,423]

2 hours ago, Noel said:

My biggest guess is that at some point MSFS will be a subscription service w/ a monthly fee involved.  If that translated into $10/month for example, it would be roughly 13y by the time I caught up with what I spent on P3D!

I was out of flight simming after the last patch for FSX.  So I have been away from flight simming for a decade but came back because of MSFS.  When I was playing FSX, I never really spent any money on add-ons.  I find it comical that in the 10 years I was absent, people were spending hundreds of dollars on P3D of X-Plane addons, just to make the sim look good.  And then people would spend more money on an external hard drive to store ortho.  And after buying the hard drive to store ortho, people would spend hours downloading that ortho and massaging it so that it could be used in their flight simulator!

After coming back to flight simming, I find it comical that people spent hundreds, and sometimes even thousands of dollars, just to make their flight sim look half decent.  To me, spending hundreds to thousands of dollars on add-ons and an external hard drive to store ortho is some type of weird ancient, out of date practice, LOL. 

I'm so glad MSFS has done away with this weird ancient, out of date practice.  All the money that would have been spend on add-ons and an external hard drive for ortho, just to make the flight sim look good, you can now use that money to upgrade your computer or buy yourself a nice HOTAS.

[DannyR 35]

Has any of you who have flown in the current update seen an improvement in the aircraft ground handling, specifically, the handling during takeoff and landing?  The problem has to do with the extreme over reaction of the aircraft to attempts to keep the aircraft straight at speeds over about 30 knots while on the ground.

Additionally, have you seen an improvement in the ability to trim the aircraft for pitch stable flight?

 

[Baber20 1,438]

It's beyond a doubt that this is the best the sim has ever been. Rock solid performance and no ctds at all.

[EGLD 439]

3 hours ago, neil0311 said:

It’s definitely better than X-Plane, P3D, and all previous versions of MSFS.

was flying in X-Plane the other day and was thinking about this subject

MSFS is pretty for sure, it's as real as anything I've ever seen on PC

but - and these are just my views of course

X-Plane still does the "feeling" of being in the aircraft better, the way the Toliss A319 wobbles and rolls down the taxiway just like a real aircraft - it still has a really great feeling of accurate physics, but maybe MSFS will grow on me more. MSFS is miles ahead of P3D in that respect, but I don't know, I still feel detached from the aircraft and that X-Plane does this better

the other thing that struck me after mainly flying MSFS the last few months was, climbing through 20k feet and up, the Ortho was incredible. I mean, crystal clear satellite imagery, no need to blur for performance and wash out the detail and colours - it looked incredible, and with XVision, the night lighting looked fantastic

so - with X-Plane seemingly focusing on improving lighting and weather and autogen quality.......I'm not ready to write off X-Plane just yet, especially with a new 777 and Falcon coming....

but P3D....oh yeah, that's a goner 😄

[united001 126]

3 hours ago, Noel said:

 My biggest guess is that at some point MSFS will be a subscription service w/ a monthly fee involved.  If that translated into $10/month for example, it would be roughly 13y by the time I caught up with what I spent on P3D!

The definition of a "subscription service with a monthly fee" is getting complex. You can buy a Sony PS4 or 5 game. No ongoing in-game app fees and still end up with a yearly XBox Pass fee or Playstation now fee for access to extra content on both consoles. Do those count as a monthly or yearly "subscription" fee? So us PC users are escaping those console fees and maybe won't into the future? I kind of doubt it, but it's an interesting question.

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