November 21, 20214 yr 17 hours ago, DylanM said: As per this Dev Blog, also handy to submit info to the Windows team through the feedback hub: Demystifying Fullscreen Optimizations - DirectX Developer Blog (microsoft.com) This was a good read. Easy to understand what Fullscreen Optimization does. And now I'm convinced the best thing is to leave it on. AMD Ryzen R9 9950X3D | Asus Astral RTX 5080 OC | 32 GB DDR5 6000 CL30 | 3440x1440 G-Sync | Logitech Pro Throttles Rudder Yoke Panels | Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS | TrackIR 5 | Oculus Rift S
November 21, 20214 yr One performance tip to add (and this is from the MSFS Zendesk) - is to set the display scaling on the exe as well: Having your monitor's DPI set to a value other than 100% can cause issues with Microsoft Flight Simulator. As such, we would recommend disabling display scaling on high DPI settings for Microsoft Flight Simulator. To do this, follow the steps below: Find FlightSimulator.exe. Right-click on FlightSimulator.exe and select "Properties" from the pop-up menu. Select the Compatibility tab. Select Change high DPI settings and then select the Override high DPI scaling behavior. Scaling performed by: Application check box. All versions - How to improve the performance – Microsoft Flight Simulator Support (zendesk.com)
November 21, 20214 yr 46 minutes ago, DylanM said: One performance tip to add (and this is from the MSFS Zendesk) - is to set the display scaling on the exe as well: Having your monitor's DPI set to a value other than 100% can cause issues with Microsoft Flight Simulator. As such, we would recommend disabling display scaling on high DPI settings for Microsoft Flight Simulator. To do this, follow the steps below: Find FlightSimulator.exe. Right-click on FlightSimulator.exe and select "Properties" from the pop-up menu. Select the Compatibility tab. Select Change high DPI settings and then select the Override high DPI scaling behavior. Scaling performed by: Application check box. All versions - How to improve the performance – Microsoft Flight Simulator Support (zendesk.com) This is another example of the poorly thought out MSFS documentation IMHO.. These recommendations are a hodge podge of ideas, and the exe file is not accessible by most users.. which they happily ignore. Bert
November 21, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, DylanM said: One performance tip to add (and this is from the MSFS Zendesk) - is to set the display scaling on the exe as well: Having your monitor's DPI set to a value other than 100% can cause issues with Microsoft Flight Simulator. As such, we would recommend disabling display scaling on high DPI settings for Microsoft Flight Simulator. To do this, follow the steps below: Find FlightSimulator.exe. Right-click on FlightSimulator.exe and select "Properties" from the pop-up menu. Select the Compatibility tab. Select Change high DPI settings and then select the Override high DPI scaling behavior. Scaling performed by: Application check box. All versions - How to improve the performance – Microsoft Flight Simulator Support (zendesk.com) FWIW Dylan, I made this change just prior to my current launch of MSFS from the desktop and for the first time in a long time I was getting intermittent stutters during taxi, after TO and during ascent in the 787-10 HD, so undid the change. May be a red herring but as I say it was a first in a long time. Sensitivity settings for the TBM930? Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
November 21, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Noel said: FWIW Dylan, I made this change just prior to my current launch of MSFS from the desktop and for the first time in a long time I was getting intermittent stutters during taxi, after TO and during ascent in the 787-10 HD, so undid the change. May be a red herring but as I say it was a first in a long time. Sensitivity settings for the TBM930? It really is system dependent isn't it...I gained a few minimum fps on the bottom end at heavy areas (but do run with gsync and vsync). BTW I'm certainly no authority on the TBM - this is the guide I've followed in the past Sim Hanger. Hope it helps: MSFS | Sensitivity Settings for Controllers | How To Guide | Get the control you need - YouTube
November 21, 20214 yr 11 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said: This is another example of the poorly thought out MSFS documentation IMHO.. These recommendations are a hodge podge of ideas, and the exe file is not accessible by most users.. which they happily ignore. As far as I know there is no MSFS documentation. Hardware: i7-8700k, GTX 1070-ti, 32GB ram, NVMe/SSD drives with lots of free space. Software: latest Windows 10 Pro, P3Dv4.5+, FSX Steam, and lots of addons (100+ mostly Orbx stuff).
November 21, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, bofhlusr said: As far as I know there is no MSFS documentation. Umm...this is right from the official MSFS Zendesk All versions - How to improve the performance – Microsoft Flight Simulator Support (zendesk.com) Troubleshooting & Support - Windows 10 PC – Microsoft Flight Simulator Support (zendesk.com) Edited November 21, 20214 yr by DylanM
November 21, 20214 yr Thanks. Anything else? Hardware: i7-8700k, GTX 1070-ti, 32GB ram, NVMe/SSD drives with lots of free space. Software: latest Windows 10 Pro, P3Dv4.5+, FSX Steam, and lots of addons (100+ mostly Orbx stuff).
November 21, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, DylanM said: Umm...this is right from the official MSFS Zendesk All versions - How to improve the performance – Microsoft Flight Simulator Support (zendesk.com) So we have to turn off our overclocks! LOL. YSSY. Win 10, [email protected], Corsair H115i Cooler, RTX 4070Ti, 32GB G.Skill Trident Z F4-3200, Samsung 960 EVO M.2 256GB, ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger, Corsair HX850i 850W, Thermaltake Core X31 Case, Samsung 4K 65" TV.
November 22, 20214 yr I think all but the most wet behind the ears have figured out how to do nearly everything required to make MSFS shine, despite the lack of documentation. I would guess the vast majority of users would not be reading the documentation anyway, right? Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
November 23, 20214 yr On 11/21/2021 at 11:42 AM, DylanM said: It really is system dependent isn't it...I gained a few minimum fps on the bottom end at heavy areas (but do run with gsync and vsync). BTW I'm certainly no authority on the TBM - this is the guide I've followed in the past Sim Hanger. Hope it helps: MSFS | Sensitivity Settings for Controllers | How To Guide | Get the control you need - YouTube Well, I changed two things at once, the Disable FS Opt and the DPI override. I reenabled DPI override after getting new stutters, but today despite this I had totally bizarre increases in CPU use in mid flight in Europe and the US today in areas that should have been absolute nothing to process, killing my solid 30 fps that I haven't seen since pre SU5. I remembered I had done the Disable FS Opt so reenabled that, and voila next flight all is back to normal. I did disable FS opt for P3D and that got rid of a recurrent stutter, but my sense is one or both of these suggested performance tips actually degrade in very big ways, quite possibly. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
November 23, 20214 yr 16 hours ago, Noel said: Well, I changed two things at once, the Disable FS Opt and the DPI override. I reenabled DPI override after getting new stutters, but today despite this I had totally bizarre increases in CPU use in mid flight in Europe and the US today in areas that should have been absolute nothing to process, killing my solid 30 fps that I haven't seen since pre SU5. I remembered I had done the Disable FS Opt so reenabled that, and voila next flight all is back to normal. I did disable FS opt for P3D and that got rid of a recurrent stutter, but my sense is one or both of these suggested performance tips actually degrade in very big ways, quite possibly. I wonder if some of this is server related. A couple of weeks ago I was doing a trip from Toronto to Miami and the FPS seemed very erratic where as in the days prior things were very smooth. I checked the server I was connected too which was the East coast USA but the response time was really high, over 90ms I believe. A couple of days later things settled back down. I count myself lucky that SU7 doesn't seem to have affected performance on my system. I'm running VSYNC on in the Sim and the FPS @ 30 and it's been a pleasant experience thus far. I just checked out of interest and both disable full screen optimizations & override high DPI settings are both unchecked. Richard i7-12700K | Noctua NH-D15S Black Version | MSI Pro Z690 - A | 32 GB DDR4 3600 | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 | 1TB WD Blue NMVe (MSFS 2020) | 500 GB WD Black Gen 4 NVMe | 4TB WD Black Conventional | Fractal Design Torrent Case | Seasonic 1000W Gold Plus PSU | Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke | Honeycomb Throttle | Airbus Side Stick | Virpil Rudder Pedals | Sony X90K 55 Inch TV |
November 23, 20214 yr 15 minutes ago, RJC68 said: I wonder if some of this is server related. I think you are right, my sim runs much better now than it did just after the update, servers are probably overloaded the first few days after each major update. System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 64Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | Seasonic Vertex 1000W I LG Ultra Gear 34 UW I
November 23, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, RJC68 said: I wonder if some of this is server related. I know that is the usual explanation I migrate towards. But in this case since I had just made two changes touted as performance tips and then the problem manifested; and then restored to the original state w/o the DPI and FS Opt changes. And to make matters worse server access time was the usual ~44ma. They happened at pretty much the exact same place in the flight over Europe and then over the US. Both started up fine, then at altitude the CPU shoots to 88-100% right out of nowhere in open skies and stays that way forever so I terminated the flights without landing. This never has happened to me since launch of MSFS. I mean there were some rough spots pre-SU5 performance-wise but nothing this bad. Anyway really hard to say w/o doing another test which is easy enough to do by reimplementing these two settings. I'm afraid too I'm enjoying flying without troubles too much to stop now! Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
November 23, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Noel said: I know that is the usual explanation I migrate towards. But in this case since I had just made two changes touted as performance tips and then the problem manifested; and then restored to the original state w/o the DPI and FS Opt changes. And to make matters worse server access time was the usual ~44ma. They happened at pretty much the exact same place in the flight over Europe and then over the US. Both started up fine, then at altitude the CPU shoots to 88-100% right out of nowhere in open skies and stays that way forever so I terminated the flights without landing. This never has happened to me since launch of MSFS. I mean there were some rough spots pre-SU5 performance-wise but nothing this bad. Anyway really hard to say w/o doing another test which is easy enough to do by reimplementing these two settings. I'm afraid too I'm enjoying flying without troubles too much to stop now! What’s that old phrase … “if it’s not broke, don’t fix it” 🙂 Richard i7-12700K | Noctua NH-D15S Black Version | MSI Pro Z690 - A | 32 GB DDR4 3600 | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 | 1TB WD Blue NMVe (MSFS 2020) | 500 GB WD Black Gen 4 NVMe | 4TB WD Black Conventional | Fractal Design Torrent Case | Seasonic 1000W Gold Plus PSU | Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke | Honeycomb Throttle | Airbus Side Stick | Virpil Rudder Pedals | Sony X90K 55 Inch TV |
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