9 minutes ago, Bdub22 said:

Just loaded up a flight at Santa Monica airport, less than 4 miles from my house and it's a soupy haze. Looking out my window, it's clear. So, I don't think anything was changed.

I am willing to bet that Asobo has not commented because this issue may be influenced by some other changes.  Could it be influenced by some change/enhancement to the xBox version? That xBox version is likely the Holy Grail as it produces both hardware and software revenue.  And an xBox purchase as a means of acquiring and flying MSFS would be highly likely to lead to the purchase of other titles.  So MSFS xBox may be the priority. The protected species so to speak.   That could explain the silence.

Edited November 30, 20214 yr by fppilot

The growth phase of the code base will end and so the rest will be icing on the cake IMO.

Regards

bs

1 hour ago, Bdub22 said:

Just loaded up a flight at Santa Monica airport, less than 4 miles from my house and it's a soupy haze. Looking out my window, it's clear. So, I don't think anything was changed.

Just checked the weather history for KSMO over the last few hours on Flightaware. Sky conditions have been clear, but visibility has varied between 4 and 5 miles for the last 4 hours with HZ being noted in the corresponding METARs. I'm not too sure how conditions might vary between your home and the airport, but ground level haze certainly seems to be an appropriate representation of the meteorological conditions at the latter.

 

 

4 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

You keep saying this, but we got what they promised. There was a pre-release video that talked about live traffic briefly. We got what they showed there.

there is no more blind than the one who does not want to see

When i was approaching vnkt airport today, everything was fine until 400 feet, then suddenly visibility degraded...Metar shows 8 sm visibility. This was really bad and immersion killer. 

This is so inconsistent that I am not sure it is worth bothering with anymore.  Without a clear communication from MS / Asobo we are all just guessing.
And I don't know if they are doing anything at all, or if it is just a placebo.

Maybe they are experimenting at their end, and we are seeing some of that, but I am pretty sure they couldn't wait to tell us if they think they had fixed it.

So, I am quite happy going back to pre-sets for now until they tweak it, just to get some flying in!  

Unfortunately I did have a thickish haze around Sedona with the 'Few Clouds' pre-set on at least one occasion, so not sure if the issue is trickling through to the pre-sets even.
It looked like I was viewing the airport through smoke from a fire.  Never seen it before.

1 hour ago, bobcat999 said:

So, I am quite happy going back to pre-sets for now until they tweak it, just to get some flying in!

There you go you found a way to cope with imperfection good for you.  Me, I'm stoked when I'm 150nm's out in the 787 HD I can now look at LNM's ground level wind indicator and predict which runway ATC will route me to it's been almost 100% spot on now since the METAR integration began, whereas previously ATC rarely matched what local winds would be in 3rd party METAR reports.  

18 hours ago, fppilot said:

I am willing to bet that Asobo has not commented because this issue may be influenced by some other changes.  Could it be influenced by some change/enhancement to the xBox version? That xBox version is likely the Holy Grail as it produces both hardware and software revenue.  And an xBox purchase as a means of acquiring and flying MSFS would be highly likely to lead to the purchase of other titles.  So MSFS xBox may be the priority. The protected species so to speak.   That could explain the silence.

This post makes zero sense.

Weather is weather. It doesn't matter which platform.

And they have commented on the issue, or at least one member of the community team have said Asobo is aware of it.

Edited December 1, 20214 yr by Tuskin38

Just took off from KFAR, first time flying in the US in almost a week. Nothing but Haze every where. The US is now off  my list of places to fly until Asobo fixes this. 

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

Just took off from KFAR, first time flying in the US in almost a week. Nothing but Haze every where. The US is now off  my list of places to fly until Asobo fixes this. 

Interesting.  Yes there is a vis layer for sure and I for one put in a wish list item to reduce haze and got a lot of flack an lack of interest in clarifying the skies as they changed at some point a while back.  When I took off from KDEN this morning I was struck by the haze but it actually looked very plausible--I just don't know how well it matched current RW conditions.  I was actually lobbying for an effective aerosol slider to be able to nearly completely remove all aerosols as desired, or be able to set minimum and maximum haze density per user preference.

It does seem like haze (more like fog or mist) is quite ubiquitous in the US. It seems about right in the UK, during the flights I've done, with the predominant problem I've seen here being clouds too low down.

But this was a thread of positive change, and I am still getting live weather today, and it's still seamless instead of abruptly changing from clear skies from the ground viewpoint to clouds popping in when in the air.

So I checked a couple of US airports around 2330 Z, and the METARs are reporting 10sm CLR conditions. In the US, that's as much visibility that we'll ever get from a METAR. Ever, so far as I know. As far as I can figure out, the apparent flight visibility is somewhere in the 8-10 mile range, and that's OK with me, since I'm mainly here to play with IFR procedures anyhow.

But for those of us who feel this is too hazyfor whatever reason, what are you looking for? Many of us asked that the Live Weather system provide local conditions that corresponded reasonably faithfully with the most recent METAR. For the sake of argument, let's say that what we've got now actually does that. Since the US METARs don't ever display visibilities above 10 sm, what would the "right" Live Weather behavior be so far as you're concerned? Should Live Weather back up to the value that Meteoblue predicts if the visibility is 10 sm? Should it just go to unlimited visibility? Some intermediate value? I don't think there's a "right" answer here, but am curious to know what others think.

14 minutes ago, jrw4 said:

I don't think there's a "right" answer here, but am curious to know what others think.

Give the user choice of two+ options:

1. The ability to set minimum and maximum haze density,per user preference regardless of outside RW conditions, or....
2. Best match to METAR.

One could actually still choose to match METAR, but within min/max values <<<< this *should* make all but the most impossible to please users happy.

Edited December 2, 20214 yr by Noel

7 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

Weather is weather. It doesn't matter which platform.

Simulator weather has at least two dimensions.  One is the assembled weather data.  The other is the processes of injecting it into the simulation and then presenting it.  So simulation weather is not simply "weather is weather".  The flow of weather data did not change, verifiable by the display in-game metar data.  So something relative to injection or presentation did change.  And juggling two platforms could make it matter. 

As in my previous message here, I am not saying two platforms are the issue.  I only wondered out loud it it may be the case.  And for lack of an official answer it perhaps could be the case.

8 hours ago, fppilot said:

Simulator weather has at least two dimensions.  One is the assembled weather data.  The other is the processes of injecting it into the simulation and then presenting it.  So simulation weather is not simply "weather is weather".  The flow of weather data did not change, verifiable by the display in-game metar data.  So something relative to injection or presentation did change.  And juggling two platforms could make it matter. 

As in my previous message here, I am not saying two platforms are the issue.  I only wondered out loud it it may be the case.  And for lack of an official answer it perhaps could be the case.

I think what they are trying to say, is that it's not really "two platforms".

The Xbox is just a fairly powerful AMD PC inside a box with a locked down Operating System. The specs are not much different to many simmers PC's.

The differences in the versions of the sim will likely only be tweaked to take into account certain limitations of using a console (such as peripherals, control over graphics settings) and further optimisation on the basis that the majority of Xbox consoles are exactly the same, unlike PC's where we almost all have different components. For example, the cooling on the Xbox will probably never be as good as a well cooled PC.

I can see where you are coming from with your hypothesis, but things have really moved on and the DirectX Box is much much closer to a PC than ever before.