Okay, so I'm in the Bonanza coming in perfectly on the glidepath. Speed 65 kts.  Everything looking good. I get over the end of the runway and hold the yoke steady and turn off the AP.  Then everything goes crazy.  Sometimes it just falls to the ground.  Most every time it takes a sharp turn to the left of right.  I usually miss the runway.  Also, I don't know when to kill the throttle and so I have trouble getting it to slow down.

I would appreciate someone that can tell me what I'm doing wrong.  It's very disappointing to make a perfect flight otherwise and have it end like this.

Thanks,

Roy

If you don't have it already, get the G36 mod here:  https://github.com/TheFrett/msfs_g36_project

65 knots on final in a G36 seems to be to slow. Try with no less than 80 knots.

 

Edited December 2, 20214 yr by nas123

Well firstly, use the mod linked above or Robert Youngs Turbo mod.

Learn, by using an airfield and do circuits no AP, hand fly it. Final Approach speed around 75-80, once your over the numbers bleed that down to around 70, 20ft cut and flare land around 65.

On approach when in the white arch drop 1 lot of flaps, at around 1000ft-500ft you should be off AP, trim and reduce speed, at 500ft landing flaps, then as above. The Bonanza is very easy like most GA you should be able to land it perfectly where you like.

I think if your not using any mod the AP is triming to much as your speed is to low. So when you switch of the AP the aircraft is badlly set up. 

Edited December 2, 20214 yr by Nyxx

Try turning off assisted takeoffs, landings, taxiing and any others. Those have been a mess since the 11/18 (or 18/11) fubar disaster called GOTY..

I have Robert Young's mod.  I have no problem landing without using the AP.  I can land like a butterfly with sore feet.  It's when I switch off the autopilot and go to manual that I have problems.

It looks like from what you and NAS23 said, the speed is the problem.  I just moved up from the Cessna 172 and landed it at 65 kts, so I used that for the Bonanza.  Will try it at 75-80.  Glad to know about the flaps too.

Thanks,

Roy

As others have already said...your airspeed is definitely too low.  I've found 80 kts over the numbers works very well usually...85-90 with a good crosswind.

Not sure if you might be using an axis for trim but that I believe will cause problems too when the AP is turned off.

I am not a real pilot but I usually switch of the AP not later than 500ft above ground. That gives me some time to familiarise myself with the situation.
Also @ZoblebV8 has a good point. Especially when you are too slow the AP will have set a lot of trim up and without a motorised trim axis you will get in trouble when you disengage.

 

thanks for all the help.  On my second attempt I landed perfectly.. You know us old guys we tend to drive too slow 🙂

Now, just need to practice, practice, practice.

Roy

2 minutes ago, Roy Warren said:

 

 

Now, just need to practice, practice, practice.

Roy

Now you're getting the idea. Best part about the sim is you can walk away from your mistakes!  🙂 

Pilot Handbook says approach at 90 knots with NO flaps and 79 knots with 30° flaps

YouTube LiveWire - Scott Perdue has a lot of great videos about flying the Bonanza - he (if I remember correctly) says over the fence at 95 knots in most circumstances

He is a retired F-16 pilot and a real fly by the numbers guy.  He also does great crash analysis videos for Bonaza incidents

And... he teaches aerobatics in the Bonanza 

 

  

 

To practice, practice, practice landings and fly Airport Traffic Pattern at any airport in the most easy and fast way, get FStarter.

Don't pull back (flare) too much. Bit of back pressure to a level attitude, then a little bit more to stop the descent. Make sure you are looking to the end of the runway. Helps alot. As mentioned, a bit more speed is going to help too. When you get it, you will be pleased... and then like me you will still mess it up every once in while. Happens in sim and real life!