1. Take out a second mortgage. 

2. Wait 6 years. 

3. By this time you'll need a new computer. 

4. Go back to 1.

Edited February 3, 20224 yr by gb09f

1 hour ago, hvw said:

I am using 1920x1080 and will continue to do so. I haven't got a 4K and will continue to use the current setup of monitors (2)

What kind of utilization % do you get on your current GPU when flying?

48 minutes ago, ChaoticBeauty said:

But if you do not care about ray-tracing and plan to stick with 1080p, they are great choices.

No, I don't really care about those features, I just want to be able to fly the FBW A32NX (and/or PMDG's 737 later this year) more smoothly and with higher settings as I am doing now. That's all and I was just thinking if a better videoboard can save me some 1000 Euros in buying a new computer (which I most probably be able to by the end of this year), I probably should go for a better videoboard or just stay with what I have now. (And am quite happy with).

6 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

What kind of utilization % do you get on your current GPU when flying?

Depending on which area I am flying in it ranges between 65% and 75%

4 minutes ago, hvw said:

Depending on which area I am flying in it ranges between 65% and 75%

In that case, I do not see how upgrading your video card is going to give you better performance.

At your settings, you are likely fine, as is. 🙂

1 minute ago, Bert Pieke said:

In that case, I do not see how upgrading your video card is going to give you better performance.

At your settings, you are likely fine, as is. 🙂

Thanks, Bert.  Oops, I erred, I gave you the utilization of my CPU, the GPU is between 90 and 100%. Sorry for the confusion

 

15 minutes ago, hvw said:

Thanks, Bert.  Oops, I erred, I gave you the utilization of my CPU, the GPU is between 90 and 100%. Sorry for the confusion

 

Do you have your fps capped at 30?   I find that works well for my GTX 1070.

29 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

Do you have your fps capped at 30?   I find that works well for my GTX 1070.

Wow !! Capped my fps at 30 and at an airport where I know my card was struggling, it now only utilizes 65%. That's some difference isn't it? Great suggestion, Bert, thank you very much.

hvw, I think the Bobcat is right in message #8 that a GPU will do you more good than a new CPU for MSFS. This is the opposite of the way it was for FSX and other previous flightsims where the CPU was more important back then.

I think Michael LowI is correct that the RTX 3060 ti is much better than the RTX 3060 and maybe only about 50 euros more. Does not really matter if it only has 8GB instead of 12. When MSFS first came out in Aug 2020, an RTX 3060ti if it had existed back then would have been very near the top of the list.

If you buy an AMD GPU then you won't be able to use DLSS. DLSS will give you way more fps at the same MSFS video settings (so they say).

DLSS requires RTX 20 and 30 series (so they say). You won't be able to use DLSS with GPU you have now. Asobo is saying SU10 or SU11 for DLSS (late this year, maybe October?).

The size of your case might limit any bigger GPU card (probably not but maybe).

The power of your present power supply has to be enough to run new video card in the computer you have now. You need to check the watts of a new and old video card. The new one will use more watts, but maybe not too much more.

 

3 hours ago, hvw said:

Talked with my budget again and it still says No way, Jose 🙂

Yes, but you can save up for an entirely new system and get a lot more from your euro doing that.  By the time you save enough, prices should be better.

Since you run 1080 what is the rush.  Save now, get wow'ed later.

2 minutes ago, Fielder said:

hvw, I think the Bobcat is right in message #8 that a GPU will do you more good than a new CPU for MSFS. This is the opposite of the way it was for FSX and other previous flightsims where the CPU was more important back then.

I think Michael LowI is correct that the RTX 3060 ti is much better than the RTX 3060 and maybe only about 50 euros more. Does not really matter if it only has 8GB instead of 12. When MSFS first came out in Aug 2020, an RTX 3060ti if it had existed back then would have been very near the top of the list.

If you buy an AMD GPU then you won't be able to use DLSS. DLSS will give you way more fps at the same MSFS video settings (so they say).

DLSS requires RTX 20 and 30 series (so they say). You won't be able to use DLSS with GPU you have now. Asobo is saying SU10 or SU11 for DLSS (late this year, maybe October?).

The size of your case might limit any bigger GPU card (probably not but maybe).

The power of your present power supply has to be enough to run new video card in the computer you have now. You need to check the watts of a new and old video card. The new one will use more watts, but maybe not too much more.

Thank you very much for this information. Very good point about the power supply watts. To be honest, I haven't been thinking about that at all. 

I don't care about DLSS or raytracing, so that won't be a point of consideration for me if I am to buy a new video card. Bert Pieke's recommendation of capping at 30 fps had a great result for me, though. But still I didn't get rid of the idea of a probable new video card 🙂 

Thanks again.

8 minutes ago, Mace said:

 

Yes, but you can save up for an entirely new system and get a lot more from your euro doing that.  By the time you save enough, prices should be better.

Since you run 1080 what is the rush.  Save now, get wow'ed later.

True, very true. And I probably will do so while in the meantime running FS2020 capped on 30fps, which gives me a  much better utilization of my video card. (Thanks to Bert Pieke's recommendation).

I also have a modest system. For me DLSS is 'everything'. Its like the Aladdin genie from 1001 Nights walking thru the neighborhood crying, "New computers for old! New computers for old"!

10 hours ago, hvw said:

The GPU price is rather steep, but hey, it still is about a thousand Euros cheaper than replacing the entire PC. Replacing the motherboard is a helluva job for me and I very much doubt the new board will survive my "handling"

Just do it. It is really not that difficult. And I myself am not a tinkerer or builder. But opening up a PC and disassembling it is really not hard.

And I would suggest to move away from Intel. You just get better bang for the buck with AMD. I upgraded my 8 year old intel setup two years ago with AMD components and all in all I spent about 600€ for a new Mainboard, a new CPU and 32 GB of RAM. The rest of my system I kept.

Edited February 3, 20224 yr by Farlis

50 minutes ago, Farlis said:

Just do it. It is really not that difficult. And I myself am not a tinkerer or builder. But opening up a PC and disassembling it is really not hard.

And I would suggest to move away from Intel. You just get better bang for the buck with AMD. I upgraded my 8 year old intel setup two years ago with AMD components and all in all I spent about 600€ for a new Mainboard, a new CPU and 32 GB of RAM. The rest of my system I kept.

Dont want to derail the thread but i think the information you are giving in regards to the AMD value proposition is outdated by a few weeks. You may want to refer to a few recent reviews.