1 hour ago, MarcG said:

Has the Sim improved overall since release? In my eyes no I'd say it's on Even Par with release; VR has taken a massive step backwards, Weather is currently all over the place, performance has improved at the expense of graphics, progress in flight physics has improved, World Updates have generally been getting better & better, Sim Updates have been Even Stevens for me as they can be very Hit or Miss. Ultimately there's still too many step backwards when step forwards are being made, the aforementioned VR being a prime example of this.

But "when it works" and it all comes together it can be a magical experience, the future's still very exciting for this title - regardless of current & prolonged issues.

Would you mind quickly explaining how VR has taken massive steps back?  I'm very new to flying in VR (last week), so I don't have any previous experience.  I'm just genuinely curious.  

After taking some time to dial in my settings, and configure my addons properly,  I can't picture myself going back to monitor flying at this point.  It's certainly not perfect, but it's really, really enjoyable for me at the moment.

Edited February 14, 20224 yr by FakeWayne

Humanity, it never ceases to amaze me! 

You present them with something quite revolutionary and....oh well, most will probably know what I mean.

Sadly everyone is a critic now and none more so than in flightsim lol

57 minutes ago, Alvega said:

What? There was no VR when the sim was released. So, I'd say it's a big step forward, not backward. (for those who care for VR, I don't)

I was referring to the VR bit as specific to when that was released (which is kind of obvious)

26 minutes ago, FakeWayne said:

Would you mind quickly explaining how VR has taken massive steps back?  I'm very new to flying in VR (last week), so I don't have any previous experience.  I'm just genuinely curious.  

After taking some time to dial in my settings, and configure my addons properly,  I can't picture myself going back to monitor flying at this point.  It's certainly not perfect, but it's really, really enjoyable for me at the moment.

Degradation in Graphics in SU5, slightly improved in SU6 but Clouds up close are still nowhere near as good as they were neither is the AA on toolbar menus.
SU7 introduced a game breaking issue with the toolbar, this was only partially fixed in SU7 Patch and still only partially fixed in SU8 Beta (thus far...), the latest Beta has also introduced another incredibly annoying bug with toolbar windows resetting, but there's absolutely no reassurance from the devs this will be fixed during the beta period.

From the first VR inclusion to now it's gone backwards, badly.

10 minutes ago, MarcG said:

Degradation in Graphics in SU5, slightly improved in SU6 but Clouds up close are still nowhere near as good as they were neither is the AA on toolbar menus.
SU7 introduced a game breaking issue with the toolbar, this was only partially fixed in SU7 Patch and still only partially fixed in SU8 Beta (thus far...), the latest Beta has also introduced another incredibly annoying bug with toolbar windows resetting, but there's absolutely no reassurance from the devs this will be fixed during the beta period.

From the first VR inclusion to now it's gone backwards, badly.

Interesting.  Thanks for the explanation.

I appreciate all the MSFS criticism so no bones to pick here.  As with most hobbies it is what you make of it.  

As for VR I will definitely give it a go when things mature.

Also the old habits of devs is improving to the point where us consumers can feel confident that our purchases can expect continual updates due to the MSFS DLC marketing strategy - IOW constant updates.

Finally, MSFS seems to be on the right track so no complaints.

ns

 

30 minutes ago, bean_sprout said:

As for VR I will definitely give it a go when things mature.

That makes two of us, can't wait 'till that happens. I was about to pull the trigger on the Oculus Quest 2, but then decided to wait another year.

Edited February 14, 20224 yr by CarlosF

For me, and I am exclusively a VR user, the VR right now is pretty spectacular even with the issues stated.  Sure they can be mildly annoying, but there are simple workarounds for the most part and the good significantly outweighs the bad.  You can certainly wait until every detail is sorted, but if any of you are on the fence, dont be afraid to consult multiple opinions on the forum before deciding on whether its worth taking the plunge.

... lots of people go on outdoor camping trips.  Some marvel at the beauty of a morning sunrise while others cant see past the mosquito bites ...

Edited February 15, 20224 yr by VFXSimmer

I can run MSFS at maxed setting and P3D V5 with very high setting perfectly smoothly at 23hz on my 55" 4K Samsung TV with loads of room for higher CPU and/or GPU load.

The bad old days are no more!😁

9 hours ago, MarcG said:

Has the Sim improved overall since release? In my eyes no I'd say it's on Even Par with release...

But....since release night lighting has improve immensely.   Performance has improved immensely as well w/ very little downside graphically.  Pre-cache Terrain slider was added which improved the sim's ability to exploit the high end GPU better.  Weather now is having some success w/ METAR integration and in general seems to be improving.  Multiple World Scenery updates occured, all free of charge.  RT Online Traffic took a holiday for takeoffs, but apparently is back in service again.  The SDK continues to undergo development and hints are there that we will be seeing PMDG NG3 sometime soonish.   ATC has had some improvements since release but really hasn't gotten high level focus quite yet is obvious. Various bugs have been fixed.  MFD brightness control and map orientation control was added to the G3000 avionics.  And I'm sure some have escaped my memory.

12 hours ago, SubtotalGuide said:

"What flat tyre? This is the best state the car has ever been in! Stop being so elitist!"

Yeah. If the other options are cars without wheels - then one flat tire is still to live with.