May 7, 20224 yr 10 minutes ago, Nuno Pinto said: This will obviously depend on how you use it. Right now it's good for sightseeing, that's not what i'm here for. Sounds like don't now how to use it. I do everything I ever did in P3D in the Maj Dash 8, PMDG birds, now in the AS CRJ and soon in the PMDG 737. It all works quite well--though it's nowhere near mature but it's amply effective. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
May 7, 20224 yr 12 minutes ago, Nuno Pinto said: This will obviously depend on how you use it. Right now it's good for sightseeing, that's not what i'm here for. Wrong! You have no idea of what you are missing. I'll save you some time. P3D & XP11 are dead to me, so please don't preach. MSFS
May 7, 20224 yr What really bothers me is that it still feels very fragile and unpolished and not thought out properly. It's laid out as a game and thought out to work in a console, etc, When i'm flying online and it decides to lose internet connection, there is a very annoying popup window that PAUSES the simulator. If i'm not aware, my ACARS program will penalize me for pausing the simulator and if i'm under control by an ATC... well, don't need to explain more. Then there's this "no internet, no flying" thing that has never been addressed. Then there's the ridiculous usage of then GPU while in the menus (i've seen 1600fps in some cases and my graphics card goes nuts with the fans - 200 watts consumption in a simple menu). I guess this is all because of its hideous game-like menus, but i bet those can be done without so much GPU use, or at least limit the word not allowed things to 30fps, it's STATIC stuff for God's sake. So, unpolished, unfinished, buggy... You name it. Out way ahead of its time. I'm glad it works for some, it STILL doesn't work for me. CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11
May 7, 20224 yr 4 minutes ago, DJJose said: Wrong! You have no idea of what you are missing. I'll save you some time. P3D & XP11 are dead to me, so please don't preach. Errr... i DO use it (when it allows me). Far from trying to preach anything, if you like it, by all means, use it. CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11
May 7, 20224 yr 2 minutes ago, Nuno Pinto said: What really bothers me is that it still feels very fragile and unpolished and not thought out properly. It's laid out as a game and thought out to work in a console, etc, When i'm flying online and it decides to lose internet connection, there is a very annoying popup window that PAUSES the simulator. If i'm not aware, my ACARS program will penalize me for pausing the simulator and if i'm under control by an ATC... well, don't need to explain more. Then there's this "no internet, no flying" thing that has never been addressed. Then there's the ridiculous usage of then GPU while in the menus (i've seen 1600fps in some cases and my graphics card goes nuts with the fans - 200 watts consumption in a simple menu). I guess this is all because of its hideous game-like menus, but i bet those can be done without so much GPU use, or at least limit the word not allowed things to 30fps, it's STATIC stuff for God's sake. So, unpolished, unfinished, buggy... You name it. Out way ahead of its time. I'm glad it works for some, it STILL doesn't work for me. That's unfortunate for you. Sounds like you don't have the ability to put it in perspective, enjoy the heck out of what works exceedingly well and appreciate it takes time and a lot of effort to bring about maturity in a project of this scope. Take a break and go play in P3D that's rock solid stagnant. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
May 7, 20224 yr 6 minutes ago, Nuno Pinto said: What really bothers me is that it still feels very fragile and unpolished and not thought out properly. It's laid out as a game and thought out to work in a console, etc, When i'm flying online and it decides to lose internet connection, there is a very annoying popup window that PAUSES the simulator. If i'm not aware, my ACARS program will penalize me for pausing the simulator and if i'm under control by an ATC... well, don't need to explain more. Then there's this "no internet, no flying" thing that has never been addressed. Then there's the ridiculous usage of then GPU while in the menus (i've seen 1600fps in some cases and my graphics card goes nuts with the fans - 200 watts consumption in a simple menu). I guess this is all because of its hideous game-like menus, but i bet those can be done without so much GPU use, or at least limit the word not allowed things to 30fps, it's STATIC stuff for God's sake. So, unpolished, unfinished, buggy... You name it. Out way ahead of its time. I'm glad it works for some, it STILL doesn't work for me. That's an aberration. I have a decent internet connection and very rarely do I have a drop in connection. The updates have not always been smooth and I agree that there's still work to be done, but it's still the best sim I've ever had when it works and that's 99% of the time. This could change when it's updated again next week. 😀 MSFS
May 7, 20224 yr 2 minutes ago, DJJose said: That's an aberration. I have a decent internet connection and very rarely do I have a drop in connection. The updates have not always been smooth and I agree that there's still work to be done, but it's still the best sim I've ever had when it works and that's 99% of the time. This could change when it's updated again next week. 😀 I have a great internet connection which is useless when the other side doesn't work which is what i was referring to. 4 minutes ago, Noel said: That's unfortunate for you. Sounds like you don't have the ability to put it in perspective, enjoy the heck out of what works exceedingly well and appreciate it takes time and a lot of effort to bring about maturity in a project of this scope. Take a break and go play in P3D that's rock solid stagnant. You don't know me and seems like you're just way too into MSFS to be able to see anything else. So that's my cue indeed, have fun, i will have too maybe someday when it's decent. CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11
May 7, 20224 yr Moderator 14 minutes ago, DJJose said: Wrong! You have no idea of what you are missing. I'll save you some time. P3D & XP11 are dead to me, so please don't preach. Don’t tell a fellow user he’s wrong to use the simulator as he wishes. Just because YOU think P3D and XP are “dead” that is not an opinion shared by others. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
May 7, 20224 yr 2 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: Don’t tell a fellow user he’s wrong to use the simulator as he wishes. Just because YOU think P3D and XP are “dead” that is not an opinion shared by others. But it is an opinion shared by many.
May 7, 20224 yr I'd much rather the frequent updates from a sim developer who is very engaged and constantly putting out enhancements and fixes than the glacial pace forward-movements of other sims... even with the regressions and new bugs introduced at times (and this only happens for the sim-updates four times a year nowadays, not the world/scenery updates). And for those with the laughable claims that MSFS is only for sightseeing and that it's unfinished bla bla, well, other sims are there to be enjoyed instead I guess... personally I find them to be about as compelling as watching paint dry, but hey that's just me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. In its current form, MSFS with all the improvements made so far to the core sim and everything else in the pipeline for 2022 and beyond, and all the high fidelity/realism aircrafts being released from GA to retro to modern jetliner... ya no other experience comes even remotely close for me, so I'll take the occasional bugs/regressions and hotfixes as that's a small price to pay in the grand scheme of things. Edited May 7, 20224 yr by lwt1971 Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
May 7, 20224 yr 50 minutes ago, edpatino said: You're not alone, to me sometimes this thing looks like it's out of hand. This has been mentioned several times. From 2023 on, I would like to expect three to four updates per year and that would be Ok for me. If an update doesn’t work out completely like it should and no Hotfix is being released then another updated after 1-2 months would be better than after 3-4 months … Just my 2 cents …. 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
May 7, 20224 yr products that are not finished are still being sold. the urgency of money produces errors. but companies know that users are ALWAYS in the forums, connected, waiting. They know that we have infinite patience.
May 7, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, Sunshine13 said: I never saw any game or simulator with so many updates. World of Tanks 😉
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