Not sure if I can explain this properly, but I've been using AAOs since the FSX days. In MSFS, if you change from a twin Prop aircraft that incorporates throttle, prop, mixture to say a twin jet that incorporates throttle, speed brake, NWS, one doesn't have to escape out of the flight and go to Control Options and manually select a different profile. One sets up the profile once in AAO and when AAO detects a change of aircraft, the profile is automatically loaded. I've used it to modify the Bravo trim wheel. Default one has to spin it many, many times to get a response in some planes, whereas others a couple of spins is all that's needed... by writing a script and assigning to individual planes, you only have to spin the Bravo wheel as far as you wish because you modified the script for each aircraft. One aircraft, one turn might = 10 turns in aircraft, whereas in another script one turn might = only four. It's a very versatile piece of software. AND, customer support at Lorby's is first rate. Very quick to answer and clarify most issues one might have. Try out the demo... it'll be worth your time. 

55 minutes ago, Mgard78 said:

Sorry, something I am not understanding... What is the difference between having to create the profiles for the sim, vs having to create these assignments anyway (whether they are or not or called or not profiles) but just in the app..?

 

Beside that AAO could do many, many other things especially for special hardware like StreamDecks, Switch Panels, MIDI devices, MCP Combo etc.:

AAO detects automatically your current airplane, so no manually switching between profiles.
You can asign your hardware for helicopter, single prop engine or 747 and do not have to care any more once set up.

You can also make templates, e.g. for my MCP Combo and assign this template with a single click to your new aircraft without overriding your current other assignments.

you can have different profiles even by livery i you want, and you don't have to care about.

 

But, this is just one single aspect of one of the most powerful tools in MSFS

7 minutes ago, guenseli said:

 

Beside that AAO could do many, many other things especially for special hardware like StreamDecks, Switch Panels, MIDI devices, MCP Combo etc.:

AAO detects automatically your current airplane, so no manually switching between profiles.
You can asign your hardware for helicopter, single prop engine or 747 and do not have to care any more once set up.

You can also make templates, e.g. for my MCP Combo and assign this template with a single click to your new aircraft without overriding your current other assignments.

you can have different profiles even by livery i you want, and you don't have to care about.

 

But, this is just one single aspect of one of the most powerful tools in MSFS

Cool. Do you know if it now supports x-plane too? Some places show it does, others and stores do not mention it.

Any particular points if you compare the main 3 tools? (this one, spad.next and fsuipc)

I used to use it for my Streamdeck XL+ but found writing my own stuff a little tricky

So if you are prepared to pay, www.flightpanels.io write all their own stuff and use FSUIPC rather than Lorby's AAO, just a bit more user friendly IMO if you don't have masses of time

Pay, download, install - works straightaway, and they have options for lots of the most popular addons

 

4 hours ago, EGLD said:

So if you are prepared to pay, www.flightpanels.io write all their own stuff and use FSUIPC rather than Lorby's AAO, just a bit more user friendly IMO if you don't have masses of time

These flightpanel profiles are €25 per aircraft. Automatic switching profiles will cost you an extra €18.
And then, when you want to customise something yourself you still have to buy a paid license for FSUIPC, SpadNext or AAO!

AAO is much less expensive and there are lots of fine profiles on flightsim.to that can be downloaded for free, although there is the opportunity to make an unobligated gift to those who created these profiles.

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grammar (costumise...)

it's costly but works without having to troubleshoot so far, so that's a bonus to some (like me) - I had a fair bit of trouble getting profiles working that I downloaded from flightsim.to

they also email you lots of buy one get one free offers and various discounts

I think I only paid full price for the first one I bought

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12 hours ago, Mgard78 said:

Do you know if it now supports x-plane too

Yes it does. Make sure to check out the demo version first!

16 hours ago, Mgard78 said:

Sorry, something I am not understanding... What is the difference between having to create the profiles for the sim, vs having to create these assignments anyway (whether they are or not or called or not profiles) but just in the app..?🤔

In addition to auto-detecting which plane you're flying and configuring the controls appropriately, there's another advantage that I like. I don't know if Axes/Ohs does it, but SPAD does - if someone else with the same controller you have has already created a profile for the controller, you can just download their profile from within the app instead of setting everything manually by yourself. This makes the time between buying a new plane and flying it much shorter because you don't have to sit there for an hour linking all the buttons and levers.

Another advantage is that you have greater flexibility over what controls can do. For example, if your throttle has thrust reverse levers that are only buttons, not axes, you can set up a control where when you engage the lever, it first activates the thrust reverser, then increases the thrust to a level that you set. That's not something you can do with the default control config setup.

Bottom line, if you're using a HOTAS setup with a single-lever throttle and a joystick, you probably won't get too much return from buying one of these. But if you have a 6-lever Honeycomb Bravo, life gets much less inconvenient when you have a controller manager running.

3 hours ago, Lorby_SI said:

Yes it does. Make sure to check out the demo version first!

Since it's an external program which runs in X-plane and MSFS, will it also run with DCS?

Very steep learning curve... trying to get this work the Fenix A320 and the Bravo AP dials and buttons - yeah, just about an hour or two on giving the whole thing up.

4 hours ago, bofhlusr said:

Since it's an external program which runs in X-plane and MSFS, will it also run with DCS?

There is a separate DCS plugin (freeware). Only buttons though, flight control axis cannot be accessed, unless you assign virtual controls through vJoy/ViGEm.

I purchased Axis and Ohs - I tried to handle it but unfortunately I am too stupid to manage it - it is simply not my cup of tea to master these settings and switches and LVAR  stuff - so I only use it to operate Guenslis Streamdeck profiles. I still use MSFS vanilla hardware profiles and change them everytime I use a different aircraft.

In FSX times I used FSUIPC - it felt easier for me to manage it.

I don't own this product but I have looked at the manual and it does seem rather complex something only those with a nerdish inclination would be comfortable with.  Pity because it does seem to address a problem I am sure many of us have with MSFS2020 - too many aircraft with too many controllers with too many profiles.

Bruce

I can't say ...

 

You click on a "+" (for an axis or a button), an additional window opens, you move the axis you want or press the button. Choose the function you'd like to assign - thats it.

Of course, AAO is very powerful and you have endless possibilities with it. But I don't think, the basic usecase is very complicated.

Hi guys,

 

I use SPAD.Next to assign all my actions etc however, I found a handy little tip if you find the search function in Spad for a Lvar hard work like me

 

If you download the AAO profiles for the aircraft you have from Flightsim.to and then open the xml file it will give you some of the obscure Lvars associated with a specific function.