2 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Check out FSFO first - both products are great.  I have been using the Flight Simulator First Officer (FSFO) with the PMDG 737 for a few weeks.  Works like a charm.  You can configure how much the First Officer does automatically and it works with button or voice.  The developer has been super with communication, bug fixes and new versions.  

Recommended 100%!

I agree 100% about FSFO, and Matt the developer is very active on his forum helping people out. I bought the Fenix version but unfortunately it doesn't work with the SU 10 Beta (because of a WASM issue it). But he is working with Peter (FSUIPC) to get it working asap once SU 10 is released.

1 hour ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Check out FSFO first - both products are great.  I have been using the Flight Simulator First Officer (FSFO) with the PMDG 737 for a few weeks.  Works like a charm.  You can configure how much the First Officer does automatically and it works with button or voice.  The developer has been super with communication, bug fixes and new versions.  

Recommended 100%!

The voices aren’t robotic are they?

Have used FS2Crew for years but if they have gone down the robotic path, then its a no go for me.

16 minutes ago, pan pan pan said:

The voices aren’t robotic are they?

Have used FS2Crew for years but if they have gone down the robotic path, then its a no go for me.

First officers voice is not robotic.

12 hours ago, alex86 said:

I tend to disagree. I believe that’s the purpose of FS2Crew, to simulate an airline environment where everything is standardized and procedurally is the done the same way every flight. But to each his own. 

 

12 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Used their FBW version. Don’t really get the boring part though.. I mean every preflight is basically the same. Checklists should be the same. Isn’t that the whole point of using checklists?

True. I also usually follow my personalized checklist to the letter but FS2Crew plays the EXACT same pre-recorded text over and over all the time with the exact same intonation and timing which makes if feel like you are playing the same old DVD each and every flight for half an hour or so. I might do things a bit different every time, like spending some more time or this or that or doing one thing before I do the other, like during the engine start. And I also can choose to do absolutely everything or skip something when I think I can. Being forced to playback the same DVD every time and just more or less sit there for half an hour before I can start flying feels boring TO ME. The idea alone would make me decide to not fly at all. I might like to do it once a week or once a month but that's it. I can understand some people like this, I just don't. (I owned FS2Crew for some PMDG Boeing back in the FSX days and stopped using it after a few weeks so I know what I am talking about. 😉 )

 

Edited August 15, 20223 yr by tup61

31 minutes ago, tup61 said:

 

True. I also usually follow my personalized checklist to the letter but FS2Crew plays the EXACT same pre-recorded text over and over all the time with the exact same intonation and timing which makes if feel like you are playing the same old DVD each and every flight for half an hour or so. I might do things a bit different every time, like spending some more time or this or that or doing one thing before I do the other, like during the engine start. And I also can choose to do absolutely everything or skip something when I think I can. Being forced to playback the same DVD every time and just more or less sit there for half an hour before I can start flying feels boring TO ME. The idea alone would make me decide to not fly at all. I might like to do it once a week or once a month but that's it. I can understand some people like this, I just don't. (I owned FS2Crew for some PMDG Boeing back in the FSX days and stopped using it after a few weeks so I know what I am talking about. 😉 )

 

Fair point, I can understand it gets a bit repetitive and tedious, especially if the goal is to get up and flying quickly. I wonder if other products e.g. MCE has more variation? I've only used FS2Crew. At least I thought the voices sounded natural, so if they don't in the Fenix version, that's certainly a step back. 

15 hours ago, tup61 said:

If there is ONE thing that would make flying the Fenix utterly boring and predictive, it is FS2Crew. The EXACT same time consuming flow... yikes. Not my cup of tea.

So you'll never be an airline pilot then?

3 minutes ago, SierraHotel said:

So you'll never be an airline pilot then?

No. But you don't get my point. 😉 Even a real world pilot won't hear the EXACT same instructions in the exact same intonation and the exact same voices and the exact same speed and the exact same etc. Real world pilots don't play a tape with the flow on it: they talk. To me personally FS2Crew is way TOO strict.

3 hours ago, tup61 said:

 

True. I also usually follow my personalized checklist to the letter but FS2Crew plays the EXACT same pre-recorded text over and over all the time with the exact same intonation and timing which makes if feel like you are playing the same old DVD each and every flight for half an hour or so. I might do things a bit different every time, like spending some more time or this or that or doing one thing before I do the other, like during the engine start. And I also can choose to do absolutely everything or skip something when I think I can.

You can do all that with Multi Crew Experience. 

 

2 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

 I wonder if other products e.g. MCE has more variation? 

Absolutely.

6 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

First officers voice is not robotic.

It depends on how you define 'robotic'. Based on what I heard last night in some YouTube videos, white the FSFO sound itself is not bad, the whole sentences come out quite artificial, due to stress, unnatural pauses and word linking.
FS2Crew seemed better in this department, of course when they offered real human voices. So, it's a surprise and disappointment for me to read they moved to synthetic voices. I guess mainly due to costs and simplicity.

Someone posted a video with the Fenix and the new FS2Crew offering.  If you skip to around 27 minutes, you can hear the British voice option.

 

Just watched it and that is not bad at all.

I am buying!

For your interest, Bryan told me in another post that he is working on an app so that everyone can record its own voices and share it to the community of willing to in replacement of synthetic voices .

 

Pierre

As a loyal FS2Crew customer, I bought the Fenix edition immediately when it was released (unfortunately) and what reached my ears during preflight, synthesized robotic voice from an "android" as copilot...future is here?

I don´t like the new voices at all, no more purchases from FS2Crew from my side

 

Edited August 15, 20223 yr by Niclas

1 hour ago, Iadbound said:

Someone posted a video with the Fenix and the new FS2Crew offering.  If you skip to around 27 minutes, you can hear the British voice option.

 

Ouch... both the voices of ProATC and FS2Crew are absolutely awful...!!! 😵

A real step backward from what it used to be. The robo-voice sounds as if you were taken back to the year 2000. Not human, lacking emotion, sterile and abrupt. In my view, this was not a very good business decision. I hope they come back with a choice having robot copilot and real human recorded voices.

5 minutes ago, tup61 said:

Ouch... both the voices of ProATC and FS2Crew are absolutely awful...!!! 😵

I have to agree.. it sounds very bad. 🤢

I think the 1990s just called. They want their robotic voices back.