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Ideas on how to troubleshoot recurrent hard pauses?

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1 hour ago, Noel said:

Similar thing this is more about recurrent ones every 55-60 seconds so you may well have a very different and annoying issue!  If clouds are doing it look at your GPU utilization and see if it's approaching 100%.

It could possibly be something else, but its started happening to me at the same time other people have reported similar findings which leads me to believe it could be part of the same issue. My GPU load usually sits around 68% when running MSFS. Its literally just started happening completely out of nowhere which is strange. MSFS has gone from running perfectly in pretty much all scenarios to unusable for me in its current state.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, james42 said:

It could possibly be something else, but its started happening to me at the same time other people have reported similar findings which leads me to believe it could be part of the same issue. My GPU load usually sits around 68% when running MSFS. Its literally just started happening completely out of nowhere which is strange. MSFS has gone from running perfectly in pretty much all scenarios to unusable for me in its current state.

🤙

Jack Sawyer

I haven't read every single post here, but just a few suggestions:
- Check your virtual memory size
- If you have any overclocks, try to disable that.
- Try reverting to default settings in BIOS
- If that doesn't help, try updating your BIOS.
- Shift memory sticks around, or try with only one installed in different slots. 

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15 minutes ago, Republic3D said:

I haven't read every single post here, but just a few suggestions:
- Check your virtual memory size
- If you have any overclocks, try to disable that.
- Try reverting to default settings in BIOS
- If that doesn't help, try updating your BIOS.
- Shift memory sticks around, or try with only one installed in different slots. 

That seems a pretty radical approach... 😉

Why would any of that help with a regular every 60 sec hickup?

Bert

Just now, Bert Pieke said:

That seems a pretty radical approach... 😉

Why would any of that help with a regular every 60 sec hickup?

It's not radical.
The BIOS settings takes a couple of minutes. Same with memory sticks.
It could help with the 60 sec hickup if the memory timings are off, if a memory stick has gone bad.
In total these suggestions would take less than half an hour.

But 7 pages of trying everything else is probably the best way forward. 🤨

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1 hour ago, Republic3D said:

It could help with the 60 sec hickup if the memory timings are off, if a memory stick has gone bad.

But this is happening to a bunch of people--what are the odds they all have memory troubles at the same time, starting recently for most or all?

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

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The regular interval of these things suggests some logging or saving type of action is happening.  Despite this DX12 has been the best in terms of absence of hard pauses.  It's very acceptable now even though I'd really love to know where these are coming from.  I don't know how many are afflicted by this, and worse yet looking at DevMode's FPS OSD it doesn't always match what I see.  Right now in DX 12 after a wee bit of 2 or 3 stutters during pushback at KOAK in the PMDG 738 that was about it from thence onward.  Very smooth nary a hint of a stutter, as it used to be till some time ago.  Still can see some frame drops in DevMode but it makes me wonder if DX12 offers a kind of read ahead buffer to cope with interruptions in processing the main thread or what have you because I'm not seeing the hard pauses except ever so subtly by comparison to DX11.  We'll see how long it holds up!

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

35 minutes ago, Noel said:

But this is happening to a bunch of people--what are the odds they all have memory troubles at the same time, starting recently for most or all?

You have this problem when using a default plane too?

Also, are you using any mod to replay the flight?

Alvega

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9 minutes ago, Alvega said:

You have this problem when using a default plane too?

Also, are you using any mod to replay the flight?

I've just been flying PMDG 738 and AS CRJ-700 and it happens identically with both.  Have never enabled the experimental replay yet.  I will try the TBM tomorrow and see if it's present there as well good call thanks.

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

8 minutes ago, Noel said:

I've just been flying PMDG 738 and AS CRJ-700 and it happens identically with both.  Have never enabled the experimental replay yet.  I will try the TBM tomorrow and see if it's present there as well good call thanks.

I asked if you tried with a default aircraft because it could be caused by that state saving feature some of the payware aircraft have. Probably not, but doesn't hurt to try.

Alvega

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RAM: 32 GB Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 6000MHz PC5-48000 2x16GB CL36 | SSDs: WD Black SN770 2TB NVMe SSD (WIN11), WD Black SN850X SSD 2 TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 NVMe (MSFS), Crucial MX500 2TB (Other stuff) | CASE: Forgeon Arcanite ARGB Mesh Tower ATX White | Power Supply: Forgeon Bolt PSU 850W 80+ Gold Full Modular White 

Interesting thread Noel. 
 

I have a similar problem. I get this stutter or fps drop every 30 or 40 secs and this happens only with FBW planes. All other planes are super smooth including payware. SU10, DX11, TAA. 
 

have opened a bug report in Fbw discord. No answers yet. Don’t remember when it started. Fbw was great last year when i used to fly it regularly. 

Vinod Kumar

i9 10900K 5.3 Ghz, RTX 3090, 32GB RAM, Win 11.

Alpha-Yoke, Bravo-Throttles, TM Joystick, TM-Rudder,  48" 4K TV.

 

When I said issue happens only with Fbw planes I meant the freeware neo not fenix which is also a Fbw plane technically. 😀

Vinod Kumar

i9 10900K 5.3 Ghz, RTX 3090, 32GB RAM, Win 11.

Alpha-Yoke, Bravo-Throttles, TM Joystick, TM-Rudder,  48" 4K TV.

 

Does this stutter happen when playing other games? Simulation type or anything that needs stable and smooth fps?

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44 minutes ago, Republic3D said:

Does this stutter happen when playing other games? Simulation type or anything that needs stable and smooth fps?

No, only MSFS for me.

 

 

 

I may have missed this if you have already tried this. I didn't read the entire thread very carefully. Do a search of your hard drives for any files modified today. If I had a nickel for all the times that I found something continuously building a log file causing problems elsewhere I'd be about $10 richer. It might be completely unrelated to anything you are doing but just running in the background. I typically search for everything modified today and then sort it by last accessed or modified times.

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