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Landing the FENIX 320

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43 minutes ago, Aamir said:

Worth checking if you're on the latest version. I've not had any bad reviews sent to me on landing dynamics from any type-rated pilots or streamers (both in beta and out of) on the latest version - most are very positive and say it's the best it's ever felt to them.

Failing that I'd highly recommend taking a video of the issue you're experiencing and posting it here or sending it to support as I cannot debug the issue from your description, I need a lot more information to see what's going wrong.

That's mostly how you're supposed to fly an Airbus, with your finger tips!

I tried the FBW A320 experimental version today, I know that it is a different beast, but you can fly it with finger tips all the time. Your A320 seems unresponsive or over reacts almost out of control, it's very difficult to land it correctly with or without the AT. But today I have discovered that it is hard to fly in a normal flight too, but almost no problem with the autopilot and the autoland.

Missing the PMDG DC6 in MSFS 2024 (she's here, but...).

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41 minutes ago, Claudius_ said:

I tried the FBW A320 experimental version today, I know that it is a different beast, but you can fly it with finger tips all the time. Your A320 seems unresponsive or over reacts almost out of control, it's very difficult to land it correctly with or without the AT. But today I have discovered that it is hard to fly in a normal flight too, but almost no problem with the autopilot and the autoland.

I agree, flying finals by hand are a nightmare even with 3kts headwind.

Miquel.

41 minutes ago, Claudius_ said:

I tried the FBW A320 experimental version today, I know that it is a different beast, but you can fly it with finger tips all the time. Your A320 seems unresponsive or over reacts almost out of control, it's very difficult to land it correctly with or without the AT. But today I have discovered that it is hard to fly in a normal flight too, but almost no problem with the autopilot and the autoland.

I have no issues handflying and landing the Fenix A320. It feels perfectly fine since the latest update.

Maybe something's wrong with your setup. Do you happen to use FSRealistic? If so, disable Low Altitude Turbulence.

 

It feels absolutely great to me, landing are easy, even with crosswind, the aircraft feel responsive, the absolute best aircraft for flight simulation to me. Your problems could be related to FsRealistic or maybe COU priority of the Fenix process

COU Priority?, did you mean CPU  

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12 minutes ago, sonny147 said:

COU Priority?, did you mean CPU  

Yup, CPU sorry, I know the Fenix can do weird stuff if CPU priority of Fenix all process is not equal or even higher than MSFS CPU priority 

We could try an online flight together, a touch and go series with the brick Fenix A320 should be very challenging. 😅

Missing the PMDG DC6 in MSFS 2024 (she's here, but...).

So why this a/c is bouncing sometimes even if touchdown v/s and g is good and a/thr is on?

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34 minutes ago, Claudius_ said:

We could try an online flight together, a touch and go series with the brick Fenix A320 should be very challenging. 😅

Heya, a few others and myself have tried to help but you haven't answered any of the questions put forth - making it very difficult to figure out where your issue is.

Could you please answer the following questions:

1) Do you have MSFS icing enabled or disabled?

2) Do you use FSRealistic?

3) Do you use ToolbarPushback?

4) Would you be able to upload a video of this behaviour?

5) What version number are you on?

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9 minutes ago, spitzer45 said:

So why this a/c is bouncing sometimes even if touchdown v/s and g is good and a/thr is on?

The suspension kinematics and dynamics are simulated, so compression and rebound, etc - this in conjunction with a too-smooth or over-flared landing will cause the energy and lift state of the aircraft to want it to go back into the sky. Check this video out, demonstrates what I'm talking about exactly: 

Then the spoilers will deploy, the lift is removed and the aircraft comes back to the ground. 

Aamir Thacker

I'd like to chime in and contest the notion that the Fenix is hard to land manually. I do it all the time with the TCA Airbus stick and throttle and I do not find it more difficult than landing a 737.

11 minutes ago, Farlis said:

I'd like to chime in and contest the notion that the Fenix is hard to land manually. I do it all the time with the TCA Airbus stick and throttle and I do not find it more difficult than landing a 737.

I find that the Fenix A320 is fine to hand fly and land manually (A/T on). However, I have to use selected speed and add 5 kts to the airspeed over calculated Vapp, otherwise the aeroplane just drops onto the runway during the flare for me.

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Just now, F737MAX said:

"is hard" or 'is not hard'? Rest of your quote contradicts the first part.

Why? I contest the notion that something is hard. Which means I am of the opposite opinion. 😉

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34 minutes ago, spitzer45 said:

So why this a/c is bouncing sometimes even if touchdown v/s and g is good and a/thr is on?

You sure v/s is good? It only bounces for me when v/s is above 300 fpm (check with external program, like LRM; the v/s indicator on the Fenix' display is not reliable for that). I do however also find it harder to land than the 737, but I'm not an Airbus pilot so it could be me.

For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.

16 minutes ago, Farlis said:

Why? I contest the notion that something is hard. Which means I am of the opposite opinion. 😉

You did, which is why I edited my post just as you replied to mine:
 

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Apologies for doubting your grammar!
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