41 minutes ago, Aamir said:

Let the fly by wire work for you.

I once sat beside an A320/A330 dual rated First Officer on a flight. As was described by him, the way to manually fly an Airbus is to nudge the sidestick and let the aircraft settle.
He also stated how there is an art to knowing when to intervene and when to leave the aircraft follow the last input. 'Stirring the porridge' is very much to be avoided.

I find that by manually increasing the Vapp figure by 5 kts in the approach page in the MCDU, I get a much more controllable and consistent rate of descent during the approach and flare phases in the Fenix.
Previously, I'd either risk floating the landing or sinking with an unacceptable rate when managed speed was at the original calculated Vapp.

Aamir, I agree, I am putting some time into exactly doing this. Mine is flying much better now, stable with no odd mishap things happening now thankfully. I too notice the oscillations and it's slightly more challenging and something I think is fine when you get to grips with the concept. I've never sat on a RW flight and had a totally smooth approach, it's always bumping around even in calm weather.

15 hours ago, Aamir said:

A very common complaint from (even IRL pilots) transitioning from a Boeing to an Airbus is "it's wobbly", due to PIO (pilot induced oscillations) - this mostly happens as a result of misunderstanding the principals behind flying a fly by wire Airbus. Generally, if you try to fly it like a Boeing, you'll have a fairly terrible time. 

A helpful thing to remember would be that your stick inputs alter the flight path, instead of thinking about it actuating aileron/elevator. Bump and reset. By this, I mean, when flying the aircraft manually, nudge the stick in the direction you want the airplane to go, and let it center again. Observe what it does. Then put in another input. If you become practised at this, you're bumping, centering, bumping, centering, bumping, centering - while pausing in between to quickly assess the flight path of the aircraft. All this, with your fingertips. The painful way to fly this is to "stir the porridge", i.e you're wiggling the stick around off center all the time, flying it with your "wrist", trying to stay on top of the airplane. It doesn't like that and you'll find yourself wobbling around all over the place. Let the fly by wire work for you.

Thanks. Can you elaborate more on the Joystick system.

1) What happens when you hold the nudge? 

2) What happens if nudge more. Does it roll / pitch rate goes faster.

I will try the Fenix A320 with the recommendations you have given. 
 

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4 minutes ago, Kanwar Singh said:

1) What happens when you hold the nudge?

You get pilot induced oscilation. This is the best video of it out there, where a BA crew fought turbulence and, according to type rated pilots in the comments, over-controlled the aircraft:

 

You learn a lot about how real pilots control their airplanes...not just the A320 by watching youtube videos.  I spend a lot of time watching their hands (and I wish Asobo would too...then they'd understand how wrong their turbulence is) watching A320 videos, I saw the behavior Aamir talks about...the bump and nudge behavior.  I tried it out and it worked quite well.  But, watch other airplanes too.  There's a whole education you can get from that.

Using the nudge technique. Its working pretty good now. Good plane. Nice job by Fenix. Better than PMDG or any other payware I have flown.

Actuators of flight control devices is very sensitive to sidestick inputs, not like classic cable system. Because with flybywire system order inputs transmits electrically to actuators in nano seconds and no any order loss. So this system is very sensitive in comparison with classic cable system. Maybe with minor sidestick inputs you will be better:)

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On 1/18/2023 at 9:09 PM, F737MAX said:

I once sat beside an A320/A330 dual rated First Officer on a flight. As was described by him, the way to manually fly an Airbus is to nudge the sidestick and let the aircraft settle.
He also stated how there is an art to knowing when to intervene and when to leave the aircraft follow the last input. 'Stirring the porridge' is very much to be avoided.

I find that by manually increasing the Vapp figure by 5 kts in the approach page in the MCDU, I get a much more controllable and consistent rate of descent during the approach and flare phases in the Fenix.
Previously, I'd either risk floating the landing or sinking with an unacceptable rate when managed speed was at the original calculated Vapp.

I just tried  your suggestion and increased Vapp on the MCDU by 5 knots.  Much better landing. 

Well, yes. I usually fly final approach with 4 or 5 knots above the calculated Vapp. It's just that I feel safer with possibly occurring gusts and the flare feels more stable. I have no clue if the calculated Vapp is realistic or not.

On 1/19/2023 at 9:09 AM, WestAir said:

You get pilot induced oscilation. This is the best video of it out there, where a BA crew fought turbulence and, according to type rated pilots in the comments, over-controlled the aircraft:

 

It looks like someone did S-turns for spacing LOL

Did a couple more landings with the technique Aamir described and it works perfect. I also hand flew the aircraft to 5,000 feet plus, following exact navigation line for the most part.

Fenix has done a great job with this. Airbus is truly amazing piece of engineering abs very innovative. I totally lost interest in the Boeings.

Any plans by Fenix for the -neo variants and any long haulers

Did a few more landings. Downloaded FSIPanel and practiced more. I can now understand how the stick in Airbus is meant to use. 
Fenix A320 flight modelling matches the real Airbus, after watching several videos of the real thing. Brilliant job by Fenix Simulations. Excellent product. Highly recommend to everybody. 

Has anyone tried to do a stable approach in the Fenix with zero-winds set maually? My ILS approach into KRIC in CAVOK yesterday was all over the shop from 500ft down, very unstable. There was 10-15kt winds gusting but this seemed out of proportion for the amount of unstable wobbling around, speed warnings etc going on. I disconnected at 200ft and managed to drag it back onto the centreline and land. I'm keen to see if I can rule out winds.

28 minutes ago, flyhalf said:

Has anyone tried to do a stable approach in the Fenix with zero-winds set maually? My ILS approach into KRIC in CAVOK yesterday was all over the shop from 500ft down, very unstable. There was 10-15kt winds gusting but this seemed out of proportion for the amount of unstable wobbling around, speed warnings etc going on. I disconnected at 200ft and managed to drag it back onto the centreline and land. I'm keen to see if I can rule out winds.

Why not just set zero  winds in MSFS and try it?

 

4 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Why not just set zero  winds in MSFS and try it?

 

I plan to, just might not be able to get to it for a few days and was a bit curious