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Rex Weather Force Question

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Hi folks, Some time ago I purchased both Rex Accuseason and Rex Weather Force. I have been using Accuseason for some time now but I have never even installed Weather Force. Before installing it, I am soliciting for opinions as to whether they like the product, whether it is better than the weather simulation in the sim, etc.

I appreciate anyone being willing to take the time to give me some feedback.

 

Thanks all ............ Rob

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Hi Rob, from my observations using wx engines provided by MSFS, Rex Wx Force, and xEnviro 2020 I concluded that they all have pluses or minuses. What stands apart from all is the xEnviro 2020 with this option requested by many and ignored by ASOBO. See the picture, please.
It makes a huge difference being able to tune down this unrealistic turbulence.
 
Screenshot-2022-10-26-102041.png

747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning. 

Rex Weather Force injects 'global weather', meaning it injects a weather scenario which will be all around you. As you fly the weather changes that means RWF has to initiate a transition from one weather to the next. Those transitions are a stuttery mess and kill the immersion, in my opinion. One purchase a regret!

Asosbo/MS have not opened the weather API, so all weather apps are 'hacks' in my opinion.

Easy to install and try it for yourself!

Most of what is said on the Internet may be the same thing they shovel on the regular basis at the local barn.

27 minutes ago, Silicus said:

Those transitions are a stuttery mess

Then you probably didn't set RWF up right or are not using the latest build. Did you describe your problem on the developers' Discord channel?

I bought RWF in January 2022 during a period when MSFS seemed to only have clear skies. Can’t remember which SU.

My experience is that it actually looks great. But just like Silicus I find that the weather transitions are associated with severe stutters and low FPS. I have spent a lot of time playing around with the setting with no luck. The only way I can recover from it is to exit RWF and start the application again. From the REX Discord you will find that this is a regular topic.

With the latest incarnations of MSFS weather I find that I never use RWF. I do test RWF at each update but so far no luck.

 

Well summarized. That has been my experience as well. No matter the settings, any time there is an update/transition, the sim becomes stutterfest for a few (3-5+) seconds, and the thing I would add is that it worsens over time. Over a one hour flight the FPS went from smooth and fluid after first injection to a slideshow. As soon as I quit RWF and started the sim's live weather, the FPS recovered to be fine again. It's like the RWF app doesn't clean up after itself when it injects new weather.

I have given this feedback on their Discord as well, all to no avail. I keep trying it because their depiction of weather and the cloud shapes are much better. I don't mind the transitions or the global weather, even though I would certainly prefer to see weather fronts rolling in. However, the weather depictions are so much better, that I would prefer it if it didn't decrease performance to a crawl.

The other critical flaw is that I cannot increase the sim rate (how fast time goes by) while using it because it completely screws up the weather injections and hastens the deterioration to a slideshow.

Edited by mmcmah

Hi,

any advices about which option and settings work best in RWF to get smooth transition without FPS loss ?

Pierre

1 hour ago, Pochi said:

Hi,

any advices about which option and settings work best in RWF to get smooth transition without FPS loss ?

Pierre

Try this please

Render Scaling: 100 
AMD FidelityFX Sharpening: 100 
V-Sync: ON X OFF
DirectX Version: DX11
Anti-Aliasing: TAA
Terrain Level of Detail: 200 
Off Screen Terrain Pre-Caching: ULTRA
Terrain Vector Data: ULTRA
Buildings: ULTRA
Trees: ULTRA
Grass and Bushes: ULTRA
Object Level of Detail: 200
Volumetric Clouds: HIGH
Texture Resolution: HIGH  
Anisotropic Filtering: 16X
Texture Supersampling: 6X6 X 4x4
Texture Synthesis: HIGH 
Water Waves: HIGH
Shadow Maps: 1024 X 1536
Terrain Shadows: 1024
Contact Shadows: HIGH 
Windshield Effects: HIGH 
Ambient Occlusion: LOW 
Cubemap Reflections: 192 
Raymarched Reflections: HIGH 
Light Shafts: ULTRA
Bloom: ON
Depth of Field: OFF
Motion Blur: OFF
Lens Correction: OFF
Lens Flare: OFF
Glass Cockpit Refresh Rate: HIGH

GOOD-FPS1.png

747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning. 

7 hours ago, Silicus said:

Those transitions are a stuttery mess and kill the immersion, in my opinion.

In the USA, flying GA aircraft, and also flying the Hjet at ground speeds (influenced by winds aloft) from 330 knots to 460 knots, I have not once experienced the transitions I have read about from a several other users.  I am not discounting their experiences, just cannot add my name to that list.  Prior to SU10 I for six months flew exclusively with MSFS default weather with solid acceptable results.  SU10 in my personal estimation introduced unrealistic buffeting, especially during approach at over-the-fence altitudes and speeds, and I reverted to REX WF and am more than satisfied. 

I do at upper Hjet altitudes experience up/down drafts of 200+ FPS (yes, FPS) over approximately 2-3 seconds resulting in up to 700 ft abrupt changes in altitude.  At those instances my clouds, etc do not change.  Those occur regardless of having MSFS default or REX WF in use at the time.  If I was flying in real life and my pax were not seat belted they would be in concussion protocol or worse.  I attribute that to MSFS SU10 as it was not occurring in the same aircraft with eather weather engine prior to SU10.  MSFS updates have a history of overcooking then undercooking weather elements such as icing and thunderstorms.  All of those are very important to my sim experiences.  Check out my footer below.

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27 minutes ago, fppilot said:

 SU10 in my personal estimation introduced unrealistic buffeting, especially during approach at over-the-fence altitudes and speeds, and I reverted to REX WF and am more than satisfied. 

This has been my experience as well.  Have reverted to REX WF until ASOBO deals with this issue - I will just have to live with its own foibles for the time being.

Bruce

Bruce Bartlett

 

Frodo: "I wish none of this had happened." Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."

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