They're doing away with the leap second until they find a better way of adjusting clocks.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/18/do-not-adjust-your-clock-scientists-call-time-on-the-leap-second

Now if they could just get rid of daylight savings time or standard time.  I don't care which as long as we don't have to go through the set-forward, set-back exercise twice a year.

Noel

Standard vs Daylight time... just pick one and be done with it.

My youngest son was born on February 29th. He'll be the first one to tell you that the leap second isn't the real issue.

Well, that would suck! Only getting birthday presents every four years! 😿

So for now, together, we can't stop it. Sorry African.

The meaning of life.  Bless God.

JIm

Edited November 21, 20223 yr by jagabom

On 11/19/2022 at 11:08 PM, birdguy said:

Now if they could just get rid of daylight savings time or standard time.  I don't care which as long as we don't have to go through the set-forward, set-back exercise twice a year.

Noel

How much that affects you is dependent on your latitude. Here in the UK (50°-60°N) this comes up most years. It’s always those in the south that want to stay on summer time all year whereas those further north don’t.

If the UK stayed on GMT all year the sun would set around 20:50 in June when many people are enjoying summer evenings. Staying on British Summer Time all year would mean it wouldn’t get light in Scotland until 09:00 in December and January. Hardly helpful to those working outdoors.

At the latitude of Arizona the difference between day length in summer and winter isn’t that extreme so maybe there’s a case to abandon it. States further north may disagree.

Ray, right now on Standard Time our sunrise is about 7:00 AM and sunset about 6:00PM.  We are 33.39 degrees North.

Noel

1 hour ago, birdguy said:

Ray, right now on Standard Time our sunrise is about 7:00 AM and sunset about 6:00PM.  We are 33.39 degrees North.

Noel

That’s 11 hours of daylight. Sunrise here is 07:45, sunset 16:04 in around 15 mins but with the overcast and raining it’s a thoroughly miserable November day. 53° 21°N.

These times are on my website below.

Geez, Ray, I read your weather link.  Your annual rainfall is over twice ours.

The annual rainfall of 14.5 inches in Roswell means that it is wetter than most places in New Mexico. August is the rainiest month in Roswell with 7.6 days of rain, and February is the driest month with only 2.9 rainy days. There are 55.0 rainy days annually in Roswell, which is about average compared to other places in New Mexico.

Noel

13 hours ago, n4gix said:

Well, that would suck! Only getting birthday presents every four years! 😿

Yeah, but think of all the money I've saved............🙂

15 minutes ago, birdguy said:

Geez, Ray, I read your weather link.  Your annual rainfall is over twice ours.

The annual rainfall of 14.5 inches in Roswell means that it is wetter than most places in New Mexico. August is the rainiest month in Roswell with 7.6 days of rain, and February is the driest month with only 2.9 rainy days. There are 55.0 rainy days annually in Roswell, which is about average compared to other places in New Mexico.

Noel

That’s what you get when you have the jet stream close to the country. Plus the effects of the Gulf Stream which keeps the climate very mild for the latitude.

Average rainfall is 31” annually. Our driest year was 2018 with just 25” and that caused brown lawns and hosepipe bans.

Your climate is extremely dry by comparison.

 

3 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Your climate is extremely dry by comparison.

Yes.  We are in the transition zone between the desert and the prairie.

Noel

Portland, Oregon.

We're nearly through it, but today the sun rose at 7:20 AM and set at 4:32 PM. I'd way prefer 8:20-5:32. 

Yes, that would make sunsets really late in the summer, but I don't care, because I'm totally done with feeling like it's time for bed at 4. 

Because of the quirks with the Earth’s 23.5° tilt the sun sets earliest around 10 days before the Winter Solstice but the latest it rises is in early January.