This could/should have been x-plane 12 - more than plausible

[turbomax 3,307]

6 minutes ago, blingthinger said:

XP12 is far far more efficient on a CPU-clock cycle basis than any other sim.

how did you measure/quantify this?

even if it is true, it still doesn't support frame rate doubling on the latest RTX 4090. resulting in less performance than DLSS 3.0 ready simulators.

Edited December 4, 2022 by turbomax

[blingthinger 667]

1 hour ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Ahhh you must be a member of the elite?

Lost-in-translation? 'Folks' in 'merica just means 'people'. Ya'll'ses. Not serfs or peons as might be the case in the EU...sorry UK?

You've tried to place me on a pedestal in the past. Why do you cling to that metaphorical cricket bat in life?

[Ianrivaldosmith 5,317]

8 minutes ago, blingthinger said:

Lost-in-translation? 'Folks' in 'merica just means 'people'. Ya'll'ses. Not serfs or peons as might be the case in the EU...sorry UK?

You've tried to place me on a pedestal in the past. Why do you cling to that metaphorical cricket bat in life?

How to show your ignorance. ^^^^.

Blocked. 

[threexgreen 3,157]

18 minutes ago, blingthinger said:

In this case 'xbox' was tied to age assumptions.

Fair enough, though the same is applicable to the XP equivalent.

[JRBarrett 3,128]

1 hour ago, mSparks said:

right, but those numbers don't get included in their public filings so the best you can do is guess based on what they said in the past.

IIRC PMDGs MSFS investment was in the 7 figure range, and they are currently barely able to afford pay their now 9 staff an average $20-$30k a year based on revenue and office costs.

At that rate it will never result in a positive ROI

While Goran is MIA presumably out spending the 6 figure income Hotstart brings in for them each from 2 years time investment....

What “public filings”? Maybe things are different in the UK, but in the US, an LLC is not required to “publicly report” anything about their financials.That information is absolutely private as far as the public is concerned. The only “obligation to report” (by an LLC) is to lenders, creditors, the IRS and tax authorities in the state in which the LLC is registered. Those reports are not available to the public.

It’s not like a publicly traded company governed by SSEC regulations, where financial reports are required to be published.

Now, it is possible to run a credit report on a business entity (just as it is with individuals) and get some sense of their financial position, but that would be like trying to precisely determine a person’s state of health by looking at their payment history to their physician.

“IIRC”… how can you “recall correctly” something you have no possible way of knowing in the first place? Unless Robert Randazzo has publicly discussed the dollar amount of PMDG’s investment in MSFS in a forum post, (which I very much doubt he would do), that information is not available from any source. Likewise what their development staff is paid.

You are just making stuff up and presenting it as “facts”.

 

[blingthinger 667]

5 minutes ago, turbomax said:

how did you measure/quantify this

Based on the fact that it's doing what it's doing with so little CPU. It's on par with or better than the competition and it's doing it at a fraction of the CPU usage. Or so I'm told. fs2020 slurps down 4-5 cores, no?

It's a common complaint from XP users: "why is it only using 1 or 2 cores!!!" 

FPS aren't as high as competition that is true. And it will (hopefully) never support fake frames from DLSS3.

But FSR2 will certainly come. And when the core render threads get spun off into more sub threads in the coming year, we'll see stable FPS out the wazoo.

[Ianrivaldosmith 5,317]

4 minutes ago, blingthinger said:

FPS aren't as high as competition that is true. And it will (hopefully) never support fake frames from DLSS3.

Hahahahhahaha stupidest statement I have ever read and confirms my previous post, complete ignorance. And now how do I find this block button?! Gotta be here somewhere. 

[blingthinger 667]

23 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

How to show your ignorance. ^^^^.

Blocked. 

Ignorance? No. You read too deep into things. Let it go.

Also, you don't really need to tell someone you've blocked them. Just move along in life. It's all good. No harm done.

Edited December 4, 2022 by blingthinger

[threexgreen 3,157]

2 minutes ago, JRBarrett said:

What “public filings”? Maybe things are different in the UK, but in the US, an LLC is not required to “publicly report” anything about their financials.That information is absolutely private as far as the public is concerned. The only “obligation to report” (by an LLC) is to lenders, creditors, the IRS and tax authorities in the state in which the LLC is registered. Those reports are not available to the public.

It’s not like a publicly traded company governed by SSEC regulations, where financial reports are required to be published.

Now, it is possible to run a credit report on a business entity (just as it is with individuals) and get some sense of their financial position, but that would be like trying to precisely determine a person’s state of health by looking at their payment history to their physician.

“IIRC”… how can you “recall correctly” something you have no possible way of knowing in the first place? Unless Robert Randazzo has publicly discussed the dollar amount of PMDG’s investment in MSFS in a forum post, (which I very much doubt he would do), that information is not available from any source. Likewise what their development staff is paid.

You are just making stuff up and presenting it as “facts”.

Precisely why I was wondering where that data was coming from since it would be a bit of an eyebrow raiser to just publically go through a business's specific economy data.

[blingthinger 667]

1 minute ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

complete ignorance

Not at all. Given how efficient XP is, I fully expect to see enough frames for a happy VR-friendly framerate. 

[Rimshot 1,173]

Are the mods on holiday?

[turbomax 3,307]

58 minutes ago, blingthinger said:

And it will (hopefully) never support fake frames from DLSS3.

"fake frames" are interpolated, predicted based on surrounding frames. fake like "interpolated" values derived and used in flight simulation? "fake" as interpolated values used in many math/technology areas to improve performance, including commercial flight simulators and research?

What is extrapolation and interpolation?

Extrapolation refers to estimating an unknown value based on extending a known sequence of values or facts. To extrapolate is to infer something not explicitly stated from existing information. Interpolation is the act of estimating a value within two known values that exist within a sequence of values.

Edited December 4, 2022 by turbomax

[blingthinger 667]

17 minutes ago, turbomax said:

"fake frames" are interpolated, predicted based on surrounding frames

Correct. Fake as in: not rendered using the actual geometry positions and lighting conditions. Not using shader passes in the GPU. They're generated using a massive set of linear algebra matrix operations instead of calculating actual airframe physics and then rendering the frame.

Has fs2020 suffered from any of the nasty artifacts that reviewers have been seeing in other release-day games (e.g. Spiderman)? I've also heard of latency issues resulting from adding in the additional frames.

They aren't physics-based so can't respond to explicit user control inputs, but there's also been hope that that will get ironed out some in future DLSS3 releases. I can envision that causing problems in crosswind landings if not addressed properly.

My aversion to DLSS in general is less about the fake-ness and more about the closed-source-ness (AMD GPU here). If AMD comes up with a FSR3 with similar capabilities, no complaints. Whether or not it will be necessary after the coming year of XP development remains to be seen.

[strider1 577]

2 hours ago, mSparks said:

I think

https://www.jtcutsacademy.com/do-i-need-a-license-to-barber-and-style-hair/

Is the biggest joke I've come across on that topic, literally makes me giggle every time I think of it, but then I see videos like

And remember why its not funny

They have turned CA into a third world dump! I live here, it's sad. It's not just CA, the corruption is Global. 

  

[JRBarrett 3,128]

4 hours ago, mSparks said:

UK definitely has a lot more easily accessible

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/

An LLC’s place of business and registrant are public information. As for number of employees and revenue, those are “estimates” - who knows where those come from?

Based on the incremental increase in PMDG sales order numbers between when I purchased the 737-700 in May, and the 737-800 in October, and doing some simple math, I would say that revenue is the least of their worries. Though RSR will never reveal exact numbers, I’d be willing to bet that PMDG has made a very handsome profit since the release of the 737. 

Consider the other major add-on developer for MSFS: Fenix. Their A320 cannot be sold on the marketplace (because it runs under an external program), and will never be available for XBox for the same reason, and yet they seem to be doing very well. They are hiring additional developers and planning major upgrades to the A320 at no additional cost to current owners.

 

Edited December 4, 2022 by n4gix
Removed political commentary from now hidden post.