https://msfsaddons.com/2022/12/15/watch-this-very-early-preview-of-the-hawker-800xp-for-microsoft-flight-simulator/

The 510 they did hasnt had very good reviews. I'll probably pass. 

Yeah considering the somewhat troubled state of the Mustang, seeing so much effort going into an even more complex aircraft isn't inspiring confidence in either their ability to deliver a good Hawker 800 or their commitment to getting the Mustang to where it can complete with the HJet or SF50

42 minutes ago, Matchstick said:

their commitment to getting the Mustang to where it can complete with the HJet or SF50

Both of which are getting significant updates today.

-B

3 hours ago, btacon said:

Both of which are getting significant updates today.

-B

Please give us an update after testing.

9 hours ago, fakeflyer737 said:

The 510 they did hasnt had very good reviews. I'll probably pass. 

I'd describe the 510 as a "fun" model, but any quality starts and ends with WT. Long way to go to convince me to buy anything else (or more complex) from them.

If you take WT out of the equation, as anyone could use that. I'd rate 510 mid way between quality I'd expect from Captain Scam & Carenado.

 

G

To me, the nose and the front window proportions just don't seem right.

Perhaps the front window is too high?

Ernst

10 hours ago, ErnstB said:

To me, the nose and the front window proportions just don't seem right.

Perhaps the front window is too high?

Ernst

Totally, there is something off with the proportions...somehow the texturing also seems very flat and non-realistic. Hopefully this is an early wip but based on that, mmm, pass as much as I want to get excited about the hawker. Also, word not allowed why are twitch streams so annoying to listen to?? Ugh the rambling nonsense from a clueless guy...hurts my ears after 30 seconds.  

10 minutes ago, Purr said:

 Also, word not allowed why are twitch streams so annoying to listen to?? Ugh the rambling nonsense from a clueless guy...hurts my ears after 30 seconds.  

Lol, not just me then. Fortunately it is possible to skip the dull rambling bits and just watch what you are interested in.. there is about 5 minutes of interest in the whole stream...

 

G

1 hour ago, Purr said:

Totally, there is something off with the proportions...somehow the texturing also seems very flat and non-realistic. Hopefully this is an early wip but based on that, mmm, pass as much as I want to get excited about the hawker. Also, word not allowed why are twitch streams so annoying to listen to?? Ugh the rambling nonsense from a clueless guy...hurts my ears after 30 seconds.  

Yeah there is definitely work to be done on the front section. However the developer stated a gazillion time during the interview that there is yet nothing to be excited for since this is mere early Alpha and there is ton of work to be done before even reaching a Beta level. I agree totally the interviewer is making more noise than anything really...at least I could sense the developer is quiet aware that he doesn't have a product as yet.

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Why buy a Biz Jet when you can use the default systems/avionics/jets in a aircraft that comes with the same systems with barely any fidelity of the model they are selling? makes no sense to me.

3 minutes ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Why buy a Biz Jet when you can use the default systems/avionics/jets in a aircraft that comes with the same systems with barely any fidelity of the model they are selling? makes no sense to me.

Have you flown the HJet?  The Vision?  There are very good reasons to purchase these types of aircraft.  To experience those aircraft’s unique systems and fidelity.

-B

18 minutes ago, btacon said:

Have you flown the HJet?  The Vision?  There are very good reasons to purchase these types of aircraft.  To experience those aircraft’s unique systems and fidelity.

-B

Naw I mainly fly the MD80 by Leonardo for the time I have to do so. But would be nice to try the 700 out only when they fix up the 787 for the Premium Deluxe and I can upgrade from the standard MSFS version. These payware bizjets are just meh compared to the Challenger 650 in XP. Only the WT Garmins make them stand out.

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2 minutes ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Naw I mainly fly the MD80 by Leonardo for the time I have to do so. But would be nice to try the 700 out only when they fix up the 787 for the Premium Deluxe and I can upgrade from the standard MSFS version. These payware bizjets are just meh compared to the Challenger 650 in XP.

Well if your not in the beta, very soon you’ll get to try the new Longitude. No meh there.
 

52 minutes ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Why buy a Biz Jet when you can use the default systems/avionics/jets in a aircraft that comes with the same systems with barely any fidelity of the model they are selling? makes no sense to me.

With the bad AI/ATC implementation in the sim I almost exclusively fly the Longitude (non-airliner).  Once AI and ATC get figured out by Asobo I'll dive back into airliners.  That being said, flying a jet out of less crowded GA airfields is great.  There's a market for business jets but many including myself are looking for options with longer legs/range.