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RTX4090 Upgrade From 3090

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Well, if you call this a substantial FPS increase, well then yes, I am wrong (and the vid shows a 3080, not even a 3090 and a less CPU intensive scenario): 

 

Honestly no idea where you got your 15-25% FPS boost from in a full CPU limited scenario, it is basically just impossible. If you get a 15-25% FPS boost, you are simply not in a fully CPU limited situation, easy as this. 

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Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

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2 minutes ago, AnkH said:

If you get a 15-25% FPS boost, you are simply not in a fully CPU limited situation, easy as this. 

I was generalising, not every situation is a hardcore cpu limited situation you know? In fact with a high end cpu, there aren’t many cpu limited situations, unless of course your flying pattern is simply LAX-LHR every flight… and you’re assuming one is always using complex aircraft too. Of course using GA, the FPS boost is even higher. 
And of course we also have frame generation, and no matter how many people try and put it down or call it fake etc, the fact remains it’s changed simming, and allowed massive frame boosts in places where they were needed! Quite simply, in layman’s terms, it’s  magical

I've moved to the dark side and also decided to grab a new 4090.  I'm going to stick with my i9-9900k cpu for now - see how things go.  

Well, and all I said is that switching from a 3090 to a 4090 in a fully (!) CPU limited scenario will provide no FPS boost unless you turn on FG. And the other guy cited this very statement and called it «FALSE!». You see my point? I did NOT generalize, I took one specific example due to the simple reason that you will find plenty of guys upgrading their GPU only and they are then disappointed because exactly in this very specific scenario their FPS did not change at all. End of the story...

Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

26 minutes ago, AnkH said:

Well, and all I said is that switching from a 3090 to a 4090 in a fully (!) CPU limited scenario will provide no FPS boost unless you turn on FG

But he’s right, it is false, because it DOES provide a fps boost. Unless you’re saying I’m a liar? It’s a more powerful card. I’ve had both. I know what my eyes are reporting to my brain, and the numbers don’t lie. 

 

and it’s not end of story, someone cpu limited at Heathrow at 25 fps, buys a 4090, turns on the magic and now have 50fps…! Not end of story, START of a new story! 

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1 minute ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

But he’s right, it is false, because it DOES provide a fps boost. 

You simply dont get it, do you? 

Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

4 minutes ago, AnkH said:

You simply dont get it, do you? 

It’s not me that doesn’t get it, it’s you. Fact:- the 4090 provides a fps boost with and without FG, over a 3090. That’s all there is to it. 

34 minutes ago, AnkH said:

find plenty of guys upgrading their GPU only and they are then disappointed because exactly in this very specific scenario their FPS did not change at all. End of the story...

What guys? Find me someone disappointed with a 4090, that you have read here in avsim. I’m waiting…. From what I can see, everyone who has purchase one is happy, beyond happy. 

Everyone should experience what the 4 series cards can do.  I have never seen a flight sim look so good with 120hz c1 oled, 4k, and  FG on. It night and day over my old 3080. The image is crystal clear and you can even see the air. I say if you can afford it you wont be disappointed.

CPU: Intel i9-11900K @5.2 / RAM: 64GB DDR4 3200 / GPU: 4080 16GB /

1 hour ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Fact:- the 4090 provides a fps boost with and without FG, over a 3090. 

Fun fact for you: 

https://imgur.io/jSjpzfU

Interesting, that not even the marketing of nVIDIA dared to show a 2x FPS increase when comparing a 3090ti to a 4090 with FG ON. Now do the maths on your own if FG does not lead to 2x more FPS, how much could the FPS gain WITHOUT FG potentially be then, huh? Sure, it is a 3090ti shown here, but the difference is not that huge. 

EDIT: and for god sakes finally get the point that I DO know that FG provides a FPS boost but that there ARE some people not using DX12 due to the terrain bug and thus FG is no option...

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Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

1 hour ago, AnkH said:

huh? Sure, it is a 3090ti shown here, but the difference is not that huge. 

But there is a difference; hence why I said that I support the users claims who said it was false, because he was correct, there is a fps gain. Your image that you posted even shows that. You can argue black is blue, the fact is the 4090 is faster than the 3090, and frame generation is game changing. 

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1 hour ago, AnkH said:

Now do the maths on your own if FG does not lead to 2x more FPS, how much could the FPS gain WITHOUT FG potentially be then, huh

I don’t need to do any maths, I look at my screen. At EGNT without frame generation it’s 58fps. With it on its 116. Double. 

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Just wondering fellas, with all the new fangled tech that this card seems to have, I'm just wondering if there are any specifics required from the CPU ie. a particular version, or in fact the MB? I currently run an [email protected].

Howard
MSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One Yoke
My FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776

I finally finished my new build earlier this week and today I got everything reinstalled and configured. Full disclosure: I did not upgrade from a 3090. I upgraded from a 7700K/1080ti to the system in my sig. OMFG, this thing is a BEAST. I never dreamed I'd see 175FPS in 4K in some scenarios with FG on. Without FG, I'd say I'm seeing 3.5X the performance with similar configuration from the previous system. Happy happy!

Bring on the Pimax Crystal. I'm feeling the need for some VR.

[email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR  HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)

@Ianrivaldosmith,

thanks for your input,

FG does seem to be a game changer - even though the extra AI FG frames will include artifacts in certain situations,

I choose native TAA with 120% Render Scaling with TLOD of 250 & all Ultra settings…

if you’d be kind enough to check your FPS at EGLL with these settings - like @MrRoper - with PSXT with RealTraffic (using AIG & FSLTL models) - & a video would be nice…

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