8 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

I'm pretty sure that Frame Generation is just another black magik marketing scheme to get us to spend big bucks for new hardware.  Remember SLI? This stuff has been going on for decades.  

Meanwhile I will sit back on my cozy 80-100fps 3060TI enjoying a simple and less costly life.

sp

Thanks for checking in.    I'm excited too! 

2 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

I'm pretty sure that Frame Generation is just another black magik marketing scheme

just like MSFS 2020 itself. all just black "magik" to make our sim experience more exciting. awful.

enjoying my black magik: i9900K@5 GHz, HP - G2 VR headset, 55" TV, RTX 4090.

looking forward to more big bugs 😊 & even bigger bucks for AMD 7900x3D and Pimax Crystal VR headset. 

4 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

I'm pretty sure that Frame Generation is just another black magik

Keep that black magic coming, @Nvidia! 💕 

9 hours ago, JughedJones said:

Just wanted to let everyone know you successfully twisted my arm and I ponied up for the 4080.  Pulled the trigger this morning!   

• Samsung 980 PRO 1TB (2)

• Seasonic Focus GX 1000W Gold

• Zotac GeForce RTX™ 4080 Trinity OC 16G

• G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Black DDR5 6000MHz CL36 6000 MHz (Maximum Speed) 32GB (2X16GB) More Info

• Intel Core i7-13700KF 16-Core 3.4 GHz

• MSI MPG Z790 Carbon WIFI DDR5

• NZXT H7 (Black)

• NZXT Kraken X73 (Black)

 

 

I am very very excited.   

Good choice i think, also concerning future updates of your rig (better monitor etc.) 16GB VRAM are the (minimum) way to go. In places like EGLL my VRAM goes to 96% (3080Ti), so my next GPU comes with more than 12GB VRAM for sure.

I also bought the 13700KF last week, very excited about the performance in general - never had such a smooth flying before. 

Greets,

Markus

 

This reminds me (I am old) of the horsepower craze of the 50s and 60s, when there was a mad rush to own a car with more horsepower than anybody else in the neighborhood. It didn't matter that most of this power could be used legally only on a race track; the point was to own the fastest (sexiest?) car. If it had tail fins, so much the better! Personally I am content running MSFS with my obsolete equipment, despite having to live with frame rates only 3-4 times faster than my eye can detect, instead of 10 times. Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

Edited February 16, 20233 yr by cobalt

A few negative ninnies in here typing words that sound like some sort of cope. A bit weird.

Let the guy share his excitement in his new system without the snide 🙄

23 minutes ago, cobalt said:

This reminds me (I am old) of the horsepower craze of the 50s and 60s, when there was a mad rush to own a car with more horsepower than anybody else in the neighborhood. It didn't matter that most of this power could be used legally only on a race track; the point was to own the fastest (sexiest?) car. If it had tail fins, so much the better! Personally I am content running MSFS with my obsolete equipment, despite having to live with frame rates only 3-4 times faster than my eye can detect, instead of 10 times. Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

Having discovered how to achieve near-zero frame time variance which affords incredibly smooth animation at modest frame rates--I'm right there with you.  A moment ago I was landing the lovely FBW A320NX into Osaka Japan part of the huge metro area of Tokyo and solid metropolis, and as we neared touch down the unlocked frame rate, checked by a hot-key assigned toggle that locks/unlocks frame rate, was around 55FPS--all Ultra, T-LOD 140 for this flight.  Not one stutter during approach and landing, and there never is anymore.  Locked, I'm at 34fps, and that is where it stays because w/ near-zero FTV it's liquid smooth and there is no need for 40, 60, 100fps.  I can say with certainty I'd be miffed to buy a 4000x GPU right now because I would experience exactly no difference in performance for how I use this incredible sim and I only flight higher end airliners into all types of airports.  To me, having learned of the value and how to create near-zero FTV (it's not thru FG, nor is it achieved thru Gsync) running this sim at 40, 60, 80 etc frame rate is akin to driving your car on the freeway at 70mph in 2nd gear:  lots of revs, heat and wear, and still....70mph.

47 minutes ago, Noel said:

lots of revs, heat and wear, and still....70mph.

no more revs, heat and wear than my previous non FrameGeneration Nvidia RTX 3090, and still ... 70 degrees Celsius.

ca. 40% pure rasterisation performance increase of 4090 over 3090 ( non DLSS 3 FrameGeneration), and that's is all you get in VR because FG does not work in VR. since I fly only in VR and we don't have the FG luxury in VR, I prefer 40 fps over my previous 30 fps.

Edited February 16, 20233 yr by turbomax

40 minutes ago, turbomax said:

no more than my previous non FrameGeneration Nvidia RTX 3090, and still ... 70 degrees Celsius.

Sure, it's a newer fab, and when you run it wide open you absolutely generate more heat, use more power, than if you didn't--but then why have a 4090?  So you can do 70mph in 2nd gear 😉

On 2/13/2023 at 4:27 PM, cobalt said:

It seems clear that MSFS 2020 does NOT require a state-of-the-art hyper-expensive rig to run smoothly.

Of course it doesn't.

That wont stop people from wasting money on overpriced hardware, though.