4 minutes ago, turbomax said:

yes, we are 😊

🤣

Early morning brain cells still asleep 🙂  

Corrected in the OP....

11 hours ago, Jazz said:

2TB WD BLACK SN850X is an M.2 NVMe drive

Oh haha.

9 hours ago, Greazer said:

Very anoyed that my 3080ti does not support frame generation, and at times MSFS is quite stuttery.

No "stuttery" here and that is in the PMDG 738, AS CRJ in and out of any airport, and that is at 3440x1440.  If ultra smooth w/o stuttering is your goal, and you're at 3440x1440 and have a Gsync display, there is no need for frame generation. 

Just to note that I have a 2080 super (obsolete by the standards of this thread, I'm sure), and with nearly all settings on ultra and photogrammetry enabled, I am seeing fluid, excellent performance everywhere. It seems clear that MSFS 2020 does NOT require a state-of-the-art hyper-expensive rig to run smoothly.

Alienware Aurora R11, 32 GB ram, Intel i7-10700F, GeForce RTX 2080 Super, Ultra graphics settings

Edited February 13, 20233 yr by cobalt

11 minutes ago, cobalt said:

I am seeing fluid, excellent performance everywhere.

what is "excellent"?

30 fps, 60 fps, 90 fps?

at 4K resolution?

users who don't mention their resolution probably don't run at 4K 😀

Edited February 13, 20233 yr by turbomax

7 minutes ago, cobalt said:

Just to note that I have a 2080 super (obsolete by the standards of this thread, I'm sure), and with nearly all settings on ultra and photogrammetry enabled, I am seeing fluid, excellent performance everywhere. It seems clear that MSFS 2020 does NOT require a state-of-the-art hyper-expensive rig to run smoothly.

Alienware Aurora R11, 32 GB ram, Intel i7-10700F, GeForce RTX 2080 Super, Ultra graphics settings

I suppose you run it at 1080p or 1440p, because at 4k the 2080 Super struggles with ultra settings, mostly because of the 8 GB memory it has. I have a 10700k with the 2080 super and run it at 4k with most settings on high and DLSS Quality. Everything is smooth and pretty.

4 minutes ago, turbomax said:

what is "excellent"?

30 fps, 60 fps, 90 fps?

at 4K resolution?

This just in:  it isn't ONLY about FPS--it's also about ultra low frame time variance which creates liquid smooth animation at modest frame rates. This message gets lost on most everyone when discussions about performance present, yet it's valid.  Here's what I mean, this in the PMDG 738 just yesterday.  Note:  I can toggle the frame lock off and shoot up to 55fps in this exact scenario and it makes ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE in the quality of animation, and so I keep it on unless in an ultra stressed area where it's possible frame rate might drop below 34.  Running this wide open at 55fps in this scenario is akin to racing your car in 2nd gear on the freeway it's simply unnecessary stress on components that delivers nothing but heat and wear.  My contention is the brute force approach FG offers certainly allows the user to ignore optimization and get away with it, but it's an unnecessary luxury for 3440x1440 if you're after ultra smooth animation, stutter-free in and out of all airports worldwide.  A Gsync display helps greatly to offset an issue w/ RTSS framerate limit w/ Edge Sync:

Resolution is 1920 x1080. FPS is generally 40-60 (set at 60 max) except in high-density areas where it can drop to 30, but even then it is smooth, no stuttering, and graphics as sharp as can be as far as my eyes can tell. At some point I suppose I will need to upgrade the 2080, but right now I am completely happy with the performance, which is at a level I never thought I would live to see in a flight sim. 

29 minutes ago, cobalt said:

Resolution is 1920 x1080.

that explains it. 😀

Thanks for everything guys!   Really appreciate all the feedback, I'm feeling better about the 4070ti, of course you always get a bit of a nagging feeling when you don't get the very tip top holy word not allowed component, but the 600 or so more dollars just makes it hard to justify to my girl... hahaha... I'm sure you can all relate. 

 

One more thing, I think I can get away with an extra couple hundred for the 13900 instead of the 13700, but I've heard it doesn't really make much of a difference and the extra heat is pretty significant.   Any thoughts there?

Just wanted to let everyone know you successfully twisted my arm and I ponied up for the 4080.  Pulled the trigger this morning!   

• Samsung 980 PRO 1TB (2)

• Seasonic Focus GX 1000W Gold

• Zotac GeForce RTX™ 4080 Trinity OC 16G

• G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Black DDR5 6000MHz CL36 6000 MHz (Maximum Speed) 32GB (2X16GB) More Info

• Intel Core i7-13700KF 16-Core 3.4 GHz

• MSI MPG Z790 Carbon WIFI DDR5

• NZXT H7 (Black)

• NZXT Kraken X73 (Black)

 

 

I am very very excited.   

On 2/11/2023 at 9:34 PM, JughedJones said:

and wait for price drops on the 4090.

not going to happen anytime soon, price drops only for the lower spec cards. 4090 has no competitor.

Edited February 15, 20233 yr by turbomax

41 minutes ago, JughedJones said:

Just wanted to let everyone know you successfully twisted my arm and I ponied up for the 4080.  Pulled the trigger this morning!   

• Samsung 980 PRO 1TB (2)

• Seasonic Focus GX 1000W Gold

• Zotac GeForce RTX™ 4080 Trinity OC 16G

• G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Black DDR5 6000MHz CL36 6000 MHz (Maximum Speed) 32GB (2X16GB) More Info

• Intel Core i7-13700KF 16-Core 3.4 GHz

• MSI MPG Z790 Carbon WIFI DDR5

• NZXT H7 (Black)

• NZXT Kraken X73 (Black)

 

 

I am very very excited.   

Good for you. Enjoy it. I think you won't regret going for the 16GB card.

Also, Be sure to check and update the firmware on those 980 Pro's. I have two of those and there was recently some iffy firmware that went out that was killing them. They have fixed it now but you don't know if the ones you receive were sent out of the factory with the bad one on. Nothing to worry about. Just make sure they are up to date, is all.

Good looking out, Jazz. 

 

I saw that too.    Appreciate it.  

I'm pretty sure that Frame Generation is just another black magik marketing scheme to get us to spend big bucks for new hardware.  Remember SLI? This stuff has been going on for decades.  

Meanwhile I will sit back on my cozy 80-100fps 3060TI enjoying a simple and less costly life.

sp

Edited February 16, 20233 yr by Sky_Pilot071