Just now, jarmstro said:

Yes, yes I am. Why do apparently competent pilots need to practice on a home sim? I find it worrying. Either they are fully trained before they fly me to Malaga or they are not?

If you job was on the line every six months if you made one mistake, would you spend as much time as possible studying ?

10 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

If you job was on the line every six months if you made one mistake, would you spend as much time as possible studying ?

I remember Janov saying he used X-Plane to learn the STAR and approach for his next flight. What? WHAT? I'll say a prayer next time I fly that the pilot has practiced the flight on his/her home sim.😀

4 hours ago, jarmstro said:

It's a scary thought to me, as I'm not a pilot, to read that real world commercial pilots still feel the need to practice!! 🥵

So once they become professionals, at the top of their game, sportsmen and women no longer need to practise..? 

11 minutes ago, garydpoole said:

So once they become professionals, at the top of their game, sportsmen and women no longer need to practise..? 

Just saying that if this guy considers it to be SO important that the Fenix has save points in order for him to practice his failure procedures somethings wrong. Very wrong,

44 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Just saying that if this guy considers it to be SO important that the Fenix has save points in order for him to practice his failure procedures somethings wrong. Very wrong,

What's wrong about a pilot who wants to practice beyond the level required by the law and their employer? To me, that's the mark of a true professional. 

2 hours ago, jarmstro said:

Just saying that if this guy considers it to be SO important that the Fenix has save points in order for him to practice his failure procedures somethings wrong. Very wrong,

I think there is something very wrong with your thinking. 

On 2/16/2023 at 3:23 PM, cagarini said:

For A320 training - professionally - the only way to go is Airlinetools A32x...

Thanks for the tip. I wish I had done a bit more research before purchasing. I looked over the Airlinetools software you mentioned. Looks great, similar to the thumbdrive trainer my company used to give us. Still hoping Fenix updates their platform to allow saving. 

23 hours ago, jarmstro said:

Yes, yes I am. Why do apparently competent pilots need to practice on a home sim? I find it worrying. Either they are fully trained before they fly me to Malaga or they are not?

Yes, they are fully trained.

No, they do not encounter abnormal procedures very often at all (sometimes not at all in a career), so why not use a simulator (home or otherwise - you seem very hung up on the home simulator part) that allows them to practice procedural sequences, that they have already been trained on, but rarely if ever encounter.

I think you are also seriously forgetting the human element of commercial flying too.  Yes - shock, horror - ATPLs are human.   When you are learning to fly there is a whole ground school component entitled human limitations.

16 minutes ago, JYW said:

you seem very hung up on the home simulator part) that allows them to practice procedural sequences, that they have already been trained on

Well, because I was under the impression, that MSFS was not necessary,  in order for a pilot to get me to Barcelona safely? I'm sorry but I don't understand why they need to practice on MSFS in order for them to fly safely?? Is flying safe or not? I'm not trying to be obtuse here but it's a bit worrying!

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7 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Well, because I was under the impression, that MSFS was not necessary,  in order for a pilot to get me to Barcelona safely? I'm sorry but I don't understand why they need to practice on MSFS in order for them to fly safely?? Is flying safe or not? I'm not trying to be obtuse here but it's a bit worrying!

You should try harder. I suggest watching some documentary about a pilot‘s work life, for a start.

4 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

I suggest watching some documentary about a pilot‘s work life, for a start.

I'm sure it's just terrible.🤣 I bow low before any pilot.  Even my daughter in law who seems to manage without MSFS.

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1 minute ago, jarmstro said:

I'm sure it's just terrible.🤣 I bow low before any pilot.

I recommend the aircrash investigation youtube series by MentourPilot. It‘s excellent stuff and he often refers to what and how and why pilots train (and how the lack of very specific training for situations that occur maybe once in a pilots life can lead to loss of life). You could start with the Air France crash over the Atlantic, it‘s one of the more recent videos.

12 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

I'm sorry but I don't understand why they need to practice on MSFS in order for them to fly safely??

 They do it to make it even safer. You never know what might pop up during a flight. Practice, practice, practice.

15 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Well, because I was under the impression, that MSFS was not necessary,  in order for a pilot to get me to Barcelona safely? I'm sorry but I don't understand why they need to practice on MSFS in order for them to fly safely?? Is flying safe or not? I'm not trying to be obtuse here but it's a bit worrying!

I think you are reading more into the OP's comments than intended. He (she?) said that they wanted to "lab" certain situations in order to try things that he wouldn't ordinarily see on the job. I didn't read it like he was using MSFS for actual "training" to be proficient at his job, which I am certain that he is. He's obviously survived his last couple of real life landings. That's saying something...

41 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

I'm not trying to be obtuse here

Congrats. You failed.