3 minutes ago, carlanthony24 said:

I don't I fly the PMDG and purchase the products but not only myself but others have the same feeling when it comes down to the things they say and come out with

The defense rests, your honour.

3 minutes ago, carlanthony24 said:

You look on FSElite etc they literally were fed up with lies.....

🙄

Thank's for clarifying

2 minutes ago, Nixoq said:

PMDG are trying to sell products that enjoy a certain reputation, so they're not going to simply ignore a known big issue and hope no one notices (which was always going to happen, as we've seen).

Where I'd like a source is that they allegedly didn't do anything about the issue and hoped it wouldn't show rather than simply not having been able to fix it in time for the streams. It's an extreme stretch to say they would knowingly release a plane that flips whenever flaps 40 is used out of laziness or something when it's way more likely they couldn't find the solution in time.

Sell a product keyword. Plenty of times people have moaned about the price which is all PMDG care about really. Like I said I have been through the clips of said incidents but I can't get to the full vod to get the evidence. Since its over 60 period the vod is gone but clips stay which isn't much help. I say again I have nothing against PMDG just the blaming and lies.

1 minute ago, Jazz said:

The defense rests, your honour.

I should rephrase I purchase and fly the products I have every single one besides the 600 on MSFS since its not much use to me and will carry on doing so.

1 minute ago, carlanthony24 said:

I should rephrase I purchase and fly the products I have every single one besides the 600 on MSFS since its not much use to me and will carry on doing so.

Despite the "lies"?

If I felt a company were lying to me i wouldn't be able to bring myself to buy their product.

We're all different though, eh?

9 minutes ago, carlanthony24 said:

I don't I fly the PMDG and purchase the products but not only myself but others have the same feeling when it comes down to the things they say and come out with. It's like you with Fenix you say everything in Discord then come on here and say the same and get the same response. Cough landing being one of them.

Yada Yada.. Put a lid on it...

1 minute ago, Bobsk8 said:

Yada Yada.. Put a lid on it...

Proves my point.

1 minute ago, carlanthony24 said:

Sell a product keyword. Plenty of times people have moaned about the price which is all PMDG care about really. Like I said I have been through the clips of said incidents but I can't get to the full vod to get the evidence. Since its over 60 period the vod is gone but clips stay which isn't much help. I say again I have nothing against PMDG just the blaming and lies.

I've seen the stream myself, and it absolutely, logically, does not proof what you're accusing them of whatsoever.

As for blaming and lying, over time I've been close to being 'that guy' a few times and pulling out dictionary definitions for the two words because the community clearly has a different interpretation of what that is.

1 minute ago, Jazz said:

Despite the "lies"?

If I felt a company were lying to me i wouldn't be able to bring myself to buy their product.

We're all different though, eh?

Indeed. I like to fly the Airbus more than anything but every now and then I like to fly Boeing. Still download products off .to even though I disagree with what they did.

Can a moderator lock this pointless thread? It's become a bashing ground.

18 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

Can a moderator lock this pointless thread? It's become a bashing ground.

No need to censor, buddy. Let people say their piece.

1 hour ago, carlanthony24 said:

If I remember correctly it might have been Fabio that they didn't test flaps 40 often since it was better to land flaps 30 the few that did experience said about it and nothing was done.

What do you mean “nothing was done”? PMDG began investigating the cause of the problem as soon as it was brought to their attention, and they delayed the initial public release of the 700 until the problem was fixed. Obviously something was done, because the airplane didn’t flip over on landing with flaps 40 after the bug (whatever it was) was corrected.

I guess the expectation was that the software should be faultless and perfect with absolutely no issues. No niggles not a pixel out of place regardless of the very complex and variable environment it was installed in. And SHAME ON THEM for fixing it ... I'm going to complain to the gods about their lies  and  the deception of it all months after the fact !!!

 

even though i purchased it anyway...

 

Rolls eyes..

Whatever ...

 

Edited February 26, 20233 yr by Maxis

If anyone ever wanted to criticize AVSIM, and reference a thread to show the grown middle-aged men behaving like bickering boys, showing off about how many years they've been an ATC.. blah.. blah (because that fact demands auto-respect, of course 🙄) ..... this would be the thread.

Some of the old fellas in this thread could stir up an argument in a monastery!

"I've got more years experience than you!"

"I don't use that function, so no-one else should!"

"I simulate more seriously than you"

"EFB....blah....blah....blah"

Ad nauseum.

Anyway, apparantly PMDG did an update yesterday - someone should create a thread to discuss it 😄

1 hour ago, Sonosusto said:

Can a moderator lock this pointless thread? It's become a bashing ground.

No, seriously.

This thread is pointless, has hardly anything to do with the PMDG update that it was titled as and it's resorted to bickering.

JYW said it perfectly.