2 minutes ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

Not my perspective - reality.

sp

Reality based on? You've done nothing but make speculative statements on why it is Asobo has done what they've done. They've made no concrete reasoning on why they've done so. You do also realise aircraft developers want a weather API to develop radar returns for their weather radars? To suggest one category of developers are more deserving than others make no sense. All the pieces that make MSFS are IMHO wholly important and complement one another.

2 minutes ago, Lucky38i said:

Reality based on? You've done nothing but make speculative statements on why it is Asobo has done what they've done. They've made no concrete reasoning on why they've done so. You do also realise aircraft developers want a weather API to develop radar returns for their weather radars? To suggest one category of developers are more deserving than others make no sense. All the pieces that make MSFS are IMHO wholly important and complement one another.

Put yourself in Microsofts position and figure it out.  Its not that hard.

sp

Edited March 11, 20233 yr by Sky_Pilot071

6 minutes ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

Put yourself in Microsofts position and figure it out.  Its not that hard.

sp

Condescend much?

You come across as a zealot who thinks they're the only person that's right and everyone else be damned.

All the others are saying (myself included) is to give people choices. For those for whom it works, great. For others, they can have alternatives.

8 minutes ago, mmcmah said:

Condescend much?

You come across as a zealot who thinks they're the only person that's right and everyone else be damned.

All the others are saying (myself included) is to give people choices. For those for whom it works, great. For others, they can have alternatives.

You come across as someone doomed by thinking processes.  Good luck with it.

Not to worry something good might cone from it.

Cheers

sp

Edited March 11, 20233 yr by Sky_Pilot071

6 minutes ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

You come across as someone doomed by thinking processes.  Good luck with it.

Not to worry something good might cone from it.

Cheers

sp

Misspelling while trying to dish it out?

Thanks.

Cheers

3 minutes ago, mmcmah said:

Misspelling while trying to dish it out?

Thanks.

Cheers

Also understand that Mcrosoft only cares about infastructure. You and me are just ants on the hill.

sp

Edited March 11, 20233 yr by Sky_Pilot071

1 hour ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

What would be the benefit to MS if the wx API is opened up? Keep in mind the goal is to duplicate earth systems.  This is one of those things you would want to farm out with 100% confidence and no deviance.

Direct benefit? Assuming meteoblue was still there, nothing. Sales/xbox downloads wouldn't change appreciably. If they left there might be a short term drop, but after the likes of AS came online, they'd come back up if they had dropped at all.

Good question.  Think about it from an MSFS POV.

SP

22 minutes ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

Good question.  Think about it from an MSFS POV.

SP

ok, from an ms point of view I want the sim to be the best it can be. I opened the aircraft and scenery so that talented developers could assist me in making that happen and it is working. I do not have the expertise to perfect the weather system so I want to open it to developers that do.

That is what one would expect to happen.

 

On 3/9/2023 at 9:33 PM, Noel said:

There is a lot of truth to that.  Since we've morphed into voxel based volumetric clouds the game has changed dramatically and I would have to wonder just how far any 3rd party can take cloud depiction--the primary issue to me is low resolution (voxels/cubic area) cloud depiction and that will be determined by the base sim, be it MSFS or XP, presumably.

Cirrus clouds have been missing from both sims, but a clever addon developer has managed to create pretty good cirrus/stratus type clouds for XP12.  No idea if he will do something for MSFS, but now somebody has proved it can be done, I don't suppose it will be long until better cirrus depiction makes an appearence in MSFS.

Screenshot is from XP12 with a weather plugin.

Edited March 11, 20233 yr by MrBitstFlyer

23 minutes ago, vgbaron said:

ok, from an ms point of view I want the sim to be the best it can be. I opened the aircraft and scenery so that talented developers could assist me in making that happen and it is working. I do not have the expertise to perfect the weather system so I want to open it to developers that do.

That is what one would expect to happen.

 

Missed the poinr ompletely. Sorry  not good at trannslation

1 hour ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

Missed the poinr ompletely. Sorry  not good at trannslation

Yes, I can see that. 

1 hour ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Cirrus clouds have been missing from both sims, but a clever addon developer has managed to create pretty good cirrus/stratus type clouds for XP12.  No idea if he will do something for MSFS, but now somebody has proved it can be done, I don't suppose it will be long until better cirrus depiction makes an appearence in MSFS.

Screenshot is from XP12 with a weather plugin.

It's still very weak, low-resolution.  Until that's addressed we'll be a ways off from where we would like to be no matter which sim.  We'll get there probably in sync with when better utilization of the new GPUs gets more traction in MSFS, don't know where that sits for XP12. It theoretically could be done now at least in MSFS if MS/A would decide to do this, tighten voxel density.

You still have to admit that the MSFS cloud depictions are heads and shoulders from what we had in the past?

sp

Edited March 11, 20233 yr by Sky_Pilot071

3 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

You still have to admit that the MSFS cloud depictions are heads and shoulders from what we had in the past?

sp

MS has revolutionized the cloud creation by modeling the weather holistically, thereafter the depiction just followed naturally. The clouds reflected the dynamics of the atmosphere and appeared familiar to us, which made them look great. MS should have continued to explore it further, with the ice clouds, etc. Instead they reverted to the traditional approach filling the air in blocks with puffs (not the worst looking puffs 🙂 but still).

Edited March 11, 20233 yr by Mark1616