Hi my fellow swimmers, planning on upgrading my graphics card from my 3070 which really isn't cutting it much for Microsoft light simulator. I was planning on getting a 4090, or even the 4080. Would the 4090 be bottlenecked with my system?

Asus Tuf Gaming Plus B550
Asus Ryzen 9 5900X
EVGA RTX 3070
64GB DDR4 Ram 3600Mhz
EVGA 850W Power Supply
1 TB NVME PCIE gen 4

 

 Would like your thoughts on it. Yes my PC is still running DD4 

1 minute ago, Bill A said:

Hi my fellow swimmers, planning on upgrading my graphics card from my 3070 which really isn't cutting it much for Microsoft light simulator. I was planning on getting a 4090, or even the 4080. Would the 4090 be bottlenecked with my system?

Asus Tuf Gaming Plus B550
Asus Ryzen 9 5900X
EVGA RTX 3070
64GB DDR4 Ram 3600Mhz
EVGA 850W Power Supply
1 TB NVME PCIE gen 4

 

 Would like your thoughts on it. Yes my PC is still running DD4 

Need a bit more information, what are you referencing to gauge performance and at what resolution. Also what settings are you running object LOD and TLOD can be a hamper on performance if you straight up max it out.

 

I know it sounds counter-productive but you would benefit more from getting a 5800X3D as the expanded cache really benefits performance in MSFS. 

I would like to know the resolution. My build is very similar to yours and I run 1440p ultra with no real issues. Even when using the game's developer mode, I am also bottle necked by main thread. I could get a 4090 and still have the bottle neck I do. Idk if any CPU out today won't be a bottleneck for this highly single threaded game.

5900X

32GB DDR4 3600

3070 Ti

1 TB NVME PCIE Gen 4

Terrain Level of Detail is at 100

Objectn level of Detail at 100

Run 1080 at 60

Off screen terrain pre-cash Ultra, buildings Ultra, terrain vector data Ultra, trees Ultra, grass and bushes high

Every other setting is basically on high

Just now, Bill A said:

Terrain Level of Detail is at 100

Objectn level of Detail at 100

Run 1080 at 60

Off screen terrain pre-cash Ultra, buildings Ultra, terrain vector data Ultra, trees Ultra, grass and bushes high

Every other setting is basically on high

That sounds like you are having a better time than me and I know my 5900X is the bottle neck.

2 minutes ago, Bill A said:

Terrain Level of Detail is at 100

Objectn level of Detail at 100

Run 1080 at 60

Off screen terrain pre-cash Ultra, buildings Ultra, terrain vector data Ultra, trees Ultra, grass and bushes high

Every other setting is basically on high

Yeah 4090 is a waste of money at that resolution. What are you using to measure FPS? The developer fps menu? If so try the nvidia overlay. Also make sure you don’t have vsync on, I’m guessing you have a 1080p60hz screen.
 

if you really have to spend money (for some reason), you can get the 5800X3D. However upgrading at your resolution isn’t particularly useful

I have to agree with Lucky38i, at 1080p you would be money better spent on a 5800X3D than dropping cash on a 4090.

59 minutes ago, Bill A said:

Terrain Level of Detail is at 100

Objectn level of Detail at 100

Run 1080 at 60

Off screen terrain pre-cash Ultra, buildings Ultra, terrain vector data Ultra, trees Ultra, grass and bushes high

Every other setting is basically on high

Upgrade to a 5800x3d .. your at 1080p your 3070 should be fine at those settings.

When your looking to upgrade your monitor to 4k then you would get a better graphics card (with more Vram to match)

 

Your platform is identical to mine and right now mine is balanced and instead of going to a 4090 im planning to  change the cpu since the graphics card can more than handle my 1440P resolution and handles the DX 12 Vram requirements without issue.

Edited April 9, 20233 yr by Maxis

Another vote for the 5800X 3D.  I have the 5900x / 3060TI @ 1440 and 150 on the LOD.

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Edited April 9, 20233 yr by Sky_Pilot071

1 hour ago, Bill A said:

Terrain Level of Detail is at 100

Objectn level of Detail at 100

Run 1080 at 60

Off screen terrain pre-cash Ultra, buildings Ultra, terrain vector data Ultra, trees Ultra, grass and bushes high

Every other setting is basically on high

What others have said. 4090 is overkill if you are playing at 1080p on a normal monitor.  Your 3070 is more than good enough. I have a 3060 Ti myself and it's fine for 1080p.

What is your display?

 

Thanks for the info..yeah I have 500 saved for a graphics card but then maybe I get the 5800X3D.

So explain to me the difference from the 5800X3D to a 5900X, I would think the 5900X would be faster right?

My monitor is a viewsonic vx2757 running MSFS at 1080p 60hz

Edited April 9, 20233 yr by Bill A

Before you spend all that money on PC hardware see if you can borrow or perhaps you already have a Samsung 4KTV in your house and try that instead of your Viewsonic. The reason is a lot of 4K TVs have built in Frame generation similar to the lauded Frame generation of the 4000 series GPU's. All you have to do is set your refresh rate to 29 or 30hz in NCP and turn on Vsync in MSFS options menu. Then in the TV setting menu accessed via the TV remote control go to: Picture> expert setting> Auto Motion Plus Setting> Judder Reduction and set the slider to 10. Exit the TV menu and start a flight. Then watch the magic on screen. The 30fps the GPU is sending to the TV will be turned into a blissfully smooth 60fps on the screen by the TV's build in Hardware. Then forget about the $500 in your pocket and wait for it to turn into $5000 for a cutting edge Flight Sim Computer in a couple of years. 😁

I'm using a Samsung UN55NU6900 and this approach has been working a charm for me about 3 years. 

Edited April 9, 20233 yr by FBW737

37 minutes ago, Bill A said:

Thanks for the info..yeah I have 500 saved for a graphics card but then maybe I get the 5800X3D.

You know the 4090 is 1200?

37 minutes ago, Bill A said:

So explain to me the difference from the 5800X3D to a 5900X, I would think the 5900X would be faster right?

My monitor is a viewsonic vx2757 running MSFS at 1080p 60hz

Again I don’t think you require the 5800X3D.

5800X3D is better for MSFS because it’s is a CPU-based game. The X3D has a much larger CPU cache than the 5900X (think RAM but for CPUs), which benefits MSFS as it can store more data on this cache leading to less occurrences where it needs to page the RAM for data, resulting in shorter frame times .

just to reiterate, make sure you’re not running vsync or some kind of frame limiter. Also what performance are you getting now.

You're about to waste a big chunk of money. Right down the drain. 

At 1080p, you don't need an upgrade. 

I'm running a 3060 ti on a 1440p display, all settings on high - average between 30 and 50 fps.