6 hours ago, ThomseN_inc said:

I somehow managed to return back to smooth simulation with the following setup:

(Monitor is set to 60Hz RR)

NVCP (global) Max frame rate: 60

NVCP (global) Vsync: on

MSFS:

Vsync: off

FG: on

Additionally i uninstalled the XBOX game bar and enabled windows game mode.

So far my last short testflilght was very smooth but i will have to see what happens during longer sessions.

Keep testing with flights. I've had my PC run smooth one flight the stuttery hell on another one

6 hours ago, ThomseN_inc said:

I somehow managed to return back to smooth simulation with the following setup:

(Monitor is set to 60Hz RR)

NVCP (global) Max frame rate: 60

NVCP (global) Vsync: on

MSFS:

Vsync: off

FG: on

Additionally i uninstalled the XBOX game bar and enabled windows game mode.

So far my last short testflilght was very smooth but i will have to see what happens during longer sessions.

Just a heads-up; the frame-cap does nothing in this instance. Enabling Vsync with FG automatically caps it a few frames under Vsync 'roof'.

19 hours ago, Sethos said:

though I'd also disable Game Bar and anything else I could come near.

I proved to myself GB and GFE have absolutely zero effect on smooth, stutter-free animation as these captures corroborates, done in the PMDG 738 w/ all Ultra settings, thru a 3080Ti.  Frame generation does not solve stuttering--in fact it doubles the number of stutters per unit time, when stuttering is happening.  My method provides ultra smooth animation at modest frame rates:

4 minutes ago, Noel said:

I proved to myself GB and GFE have absolutely zero effect on smooth, stutter-free animation as these captures corroborates, done in the PMDG 738 w/ all Ultra settings, thru a 3080Ti.  Frame generation does not solve stuttering--in fact it doubles the number of stutters per unit time, when stuttering is happening.  My method provides ultra smooth animation at modest frame rates:

Interesting data, thank you.

6 minutes ago, Sethos said:

Interesting data, thank you.

It is, and I challenge anyone, no matter what their hardware, to do a capture using CapFrameX and see how close they get to this level of ultra low FTV, which absolutely equates to ultra smooth, stutter-free animation.   

1 hour ago, Sethos said:

Just a heads-up; the frame-cap does nothing in this instance. Enabling Vsync with FG automatically caps it a few frames under Vsync 'roof'.

In my case that is not true. Removing it results in extreme stutter and uncontrollable lag. Having it on everything is smooth. been there, done that.

1 hour ago, Noel said:

I proved to myself GB and GFE have absolutely zero effect on smooth, stutter-free animation as these captures corroborates, done in the PMDG 738 w/ all Ultra settings, thru a 3080Ti.  Frame generation does not solve stuttering--in fact it doubles the number of stutters per unit time, when stuttering is happening.  My method provides ultra smooth animation at modest frame rates:

how do you prove this without having a 4000 series card with FGE, don't get me wrong I have a 6900xt and am still looking at updating this card with a FGE card or a 7900xtx with 24gb.....

Edited June 14, 20232 yr by pilotter
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4 hours ago, pilotter said:

how do you prove this without having a 4000 series card with FGE, don't get me wrong I have a 6900xt and am still looking at updating this card with a FGE card or a 7900xtx with 24gb.....

Again, "I proved to myself GB and GFE have absolutely zero effect on smooth, stutter-free animation as these captures corroborates, done in the PMDG 738 w/ all Ultra settings, thru a 3080Ti...."

This was a response to Sethos' comment, "Personally, my approach would be to make sure I don't have something that interferes with 3D applications, software with any sort of overlays, including Geforce Experience. Then I'd perhaps try and disable Game Mode [or Game Bar)..."  so I was just conveying that I achieved perfection subjectively and corroborated by CapFrameX in animation despite GeForce Experience, Game Bar/Mode being active.  As well Windows 10 RealTime protection and Defender are actioutve.  My method of syncing is superior to any form of Vsync or NVCP frame limiters.  The only downside is it demands a Gsync display.  I am very happy w/ 3080Ti for 3440x1440 but could use a better CPU which would primarily let me run more traffic is about it.  Right now I have FSLTL running very low IFR/VFR and statics, plus if it's a demanding arrival airport I will shut down FSLTL outright, or turn if off and back on about 30 miles from arrival.

13 hours ago, ThomseN_inc said:

I somehow managed to return back to smooth simulation with the following setup:

(Monitor is set to 60Hz RR)

NVCP (global) Max frame rate: 60

NVCP (global) Vsync: on

MSFS:

Vsync: off

FG: on

Additionally i uninstalled the XBOX game bar and enabled windows game mode.

So far my last short testflilght was very smooth but i will have to see what happens during longer sessions.

This is what works for me.  But I've dropped my monitor refresh rate to 50 lately and synced it to that.  It seems to help in the scenarios I just can't hold 60FPS stay smooth.  Now if I load up the FBW going into LAX with traffic or something I still will get stutters because I can't maintain that either even on my system but for the most part it works pretty well.  

7 hours ago, Noel said:

I proved to myself GB and GFE have absolutely zero effect on smooth, stutter-free animation as these captures corroborates, done in the PMDG 738 w/ all Ultra settings, thru a 3080Ti.  Frame generation does not solve stuttering--in fact it doubles the number of stutters per unit time, when stuttering is happening.  My method provides ultra smooth animation at modest frame rates:

I guess that there is no free lunch with FG.

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On 6/13/2023 at 12:22 PM, Mejjo said:

The way around it for me is to click out of the sim to my second monitor ( which has Volanta open ) and then click back into the sim. After doing this the performance is completely back to normal but the same happens again after some time and i repeat the process.

I'm having the same issue. Clicking out of the sim solves it temporarily for me as well. I started monitoring process resource usage in a second monitor. After I've had the sim running for awhile, Desktop Window Manager starts massively increasing its GPU usage until it's north of 90%, at which point the stutters become noticeable. Switching focus away from the sim drops it to the more usual 1-5%. I have no idea if this is a Windows bug where DWM goes crazy when the video card is being used, or a MSFS issue where it does something to agitate the DWM. 

 

So I started to have heavy performance degradations here there. Accidentally I have came across a video on YouTube talking about nvidia shaders ! The video recommended to clear nvidia shaders folder and then inside Nvidia panel (global settings) increase shaders size to 10g. Next long haul flight everything is running smooth - no performance degradation at all 

43 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

So I started to have heavy performance degradations here there. Accidentally I have came across a video on YouTube talking about nvidia shaders ! The video recommended to clear nvidia shaders folder and then inside Nvidia panel (global settings) increase shaders size to 10g. Next long haul flight everything is running smooth - no performance degradation at all 

Cool, thanks, gonna try this out. On my system, I can fly in the same instance for no more than 4 hours without performance degrading. After that, it’s game over. 

5 minutes ago, V1ROTA7E said:

Cool, thanks, gonna try this out. On my system, I can fly in the same instance for no more than 4 hours without performance degrading. After that, it’s game over. 

Here is video

 

Thank you. I wonder if there is any real benefit to having the cache disabled in NVinspector...Or maybe having a huge cache.