39 minutes ago, Drunq said:

what the new scattering/ozone coefficients in SU14-beta are.

and while you are at it, could you please throw in the 3 values to fix the Assistance settings reset bug real quick? 🤣

Edited November 5, 20232 yr by turbomax

1 hour ago, Drunq said:

@Biology and anyone wondering what the new scattering/ozone coefficients in SU14-beta are.

Red: 0.001540360041
Green: 0.0
Blue: 0.002291070065

You're a genius, lol. Thanks!

3 hours ago, Drunq said:

@Biology and anyone wondering what the new scattering/ozone coefficients in SU14-beta are.

Red: 0.001540360041
Green: 0.0
Blue: 0.002291070065

Thank you so much! How did you manage to find those values?

2 hours ago, captain420 said:

Thank you so much! How did you manage to find those values?

My guess is that you search for the code values before or after the coefficients in an older exe file (you know, the one we all have backed up ). 
This code should remain the same in the newer exe file, and that will indicate where the new coefficients are.  Nice work anyway.

Edited November 5, 20232 yr by bobcat999

4 hours ago, captain420 said:

Thank you so much! How did you manage to find those values?

 

1 hour ago, bobcat999 said:

My guess is that you search for the code values before or after the coefficients in an older exe file (you know, the one we all have backed up ). 
This code should remain the same in the newer exe file, and that will indicate where the new coefficients are.  Nice work anyway.

Yes, something like that. I searched in the general area where the previous values were. The surrounding pattern of bytes are very similar.

8 hours ago, Drunq said:

@Biology and anyone wondering what the new scattering/ozone coefficients in SU14-beta are.

Red: 0.001540360041
Green: 0.0
Blue: 0.002291070065

Are you sure that these are in the right order? These are the exact same values ARPC outputs, just in the wrong order. ARPC outputs 0.00229 for red, 0.00154 for green and 0.0 for blue. In any other order the sky would look completely wrong, so I'm pretty sure it's just the order they're stored in the memory being different, not the order they're used.

This means that Asobo used the ARPC values as is (thankfully), and the purpler sunsets / sunrises compared to applying the ARPC values in SU13 is solely caused by the corrections they made to the Rayleigh scattering coefficients and the direct sunlight color.

Edited November 5, 20232 yr by Biology

10 minutes ago, Biology said:

Are you sure that these are in order? These are the exact same values ARPC outputs, just in the wrong order. ARPC outputs 0.00229 for red, 0.00154 for green and 0.0 for blue. In this order the sky would look completely wrong, so I'm pretty sure it's just the order they're stored in the memory being different, not the way they're used.

This means that Asobo used the ARPC values as is, and the difference from applying the ARPC coefficients in SU13 is caused by the adjustments to the Rayleigh scattering coefficients and the direct sunlight color.

The values are stored like this in memory: [0.002291070065, 0.001540360041, 0]

I don't know how I got these mixed up.

Correct ones:
Red: 0.002291070065
Green: 0.001540360041
Blue: 0.0

1 hour ago, Drunq said:

The values are stored like this in memory: [0.002291070065, 0.001540360041, 0]

I don't know how I got these mixed up.

Correct ones:
Red: 0.002291070065
Green: 0.001540360041
Blue: 0.0

I have absolutely no idea how things like that work...but does that mean the mod will be available for the current MSFS version anywhere soon?

26 minutes ago, ThomseN_inc said:

I have absolutely no idea how things like that work...but does that mean the mod will be available for the current MSFS version anywhere soon?

Yes, I'll make it work when I have some time. However like Biology said It's not recommended, because the values are physically accurate. The post-processing probably needs some tweaks.

8 minutes ago, Drunq said:

Yes, I'll make it work when I have some time. However like Biology said It's not recommended, because the values are physically accurate. The post-processing probably needs some tweaks.

Ah ok! Great to hear! I still havbe the impresson that the built in values give a bit too purple colors but thats just my own view.

Anyway, thanks for your effort! 🙂

@Biology Just saw the work you did on the post-processing in the MSFS forum, and you really did one hell of a good job.

This just shows we need better post-processing in MSFS.

Image comparisons by FinalLightNL from the MSFS forum:

 

@Alvega @ThomseN_inc As requested https://github.com/drunkwinter/MSFS2020.ARPC/releases/tag/v1.2.2-SU14%2B

Probably the last release I'll do. As I previously said I don't really recommend using it.

Using something like Reshade would be much better suited, especially when/if Biology releases his shader.

18 minutes ago, Drunq said:

@Alvega @ThomseN_inc As requested https://github.com/drunkwinter/MSFS2020.ARPC/releases/tag/v1.2.2-SU14%2B

Probably the last release I'll do. As I previously said I don't really recommend using it.

Using something like Reshade would be much better suited, especially when/if Biology releases his shader.

Thanks, the sunrise and sunset colors are not the same everywhere in the world, so it's good to have options. That's why people used Real Environment Xtreme back in the day. Wish there was a tool like that for MSFS.

Again, thanks for your work. 👍

Did some quick tests and noticed that using Biology's values in Drunq's files is now useless because that is what Asobo is using now, so there is no noticeable difference.

But using MortThe2nd's values there is a noticeable difference, especially in the sky color. But it also makes the clouds more purple, which is not good in my opinion.

 

Default Asobo SU14 Beta

 

MortThe2nd's values with Drunq's tool

 

Default Asobo Su14 Beta

 

MortThe2nd's values with Drunq's tool

 

So we now have 2 different options to choose from, or someone could also come up with different values.

Lets hope Asobo also implements the other change Biology posted about here.

Edited November 6, 20232 yr by Alvega

I hope that on MSFS2024, they will also find a solution so as not to always have the same sunsets and sunrises.

I don't know what software on P3D I think ActiveSky, we could change the sunsets and sunrises at each twilight, it was a bit of a surprise with each flight in terms of the colors of the sky...