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Is this lack of buildings normal?

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A picture is worth a thousand words:

53158279112_ef9b183ace_b.jpg

https://flic.kr/p/2oZq5nE

Only the Empire State? Is this normal? Setting both TLOD and OLOD to 200 won't help at all. Lower Manhattan gets back to normal just 2 NM away. Is it there a way to fix this?

Best regards,
Luis Hernández 20px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png

Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.

Have you tried to delete the rolling cache?

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I have it off, and I deleted it last week.

Best regards,
Luis Hernández 20px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png

Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.

It looks like Photogrammetry is turned off?  If so, the buildings are tied to your Object LOD and it has to be set pretty high to see the buildings in the distance. 200 may not be enough....

 

I am not sure why the one odd building is showing up..??

Edited by Flic1

Eric

i9-12900k, RTX 5070ti OC, 32GB ddr5 5600 RAM, 2TB 980 Pro SSD, Titan 240RX AIO, Samsung CRG90 49", Win 11

Have you checked 'Buildings' ?

 

 

Antoine v Heck
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1 hour ago, Flic1 said:

It looks like Photogrammetry is turned off?  If so, the buildings are tied to your Object LOD and it has to be set pretty high to see the buildings in the distance. 200 may not be enough....

I never used PG, but I didn't expect to exclude the autogen buildings until I was 2 NM away. Turning on PG and setting OLOD to 200 (the max available in my computer) helps a lot. As soon as I turn PG off, all buildings (but the Empire State) disappear.

1 hour ago, Flic1 said:

I am not sure why the one odd building is showing up..??

Maybe the ESB is modeled as a landmark?

Edited by Luis Hernandez
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Best regards,
Luis Hernández 20px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png

Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.

Luis -- it doesn't look normal to me.

I'll jump into JFK right now and fly that direction and check it out.

Rhett

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Ok my NY looks normal / has buildings.  I run a 200 TLOD and 200 OLOD.  It could be offline as suggested or something with photogrammetry.  I'd lean towards temporary disconnect.

Rhett

7800X3D 96 GB G.Skill Flare  Gigabyte 4090  Crucial P5 Plus 2TB

6 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Looks like you are offline.

This happened to me out of KLAX the other day, I looked and sure enough was offline.

Noel

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7 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Looks like you are offline.

 

2 hours ago, Mace said:

It could be offline as suggested or something with photogrammetry.  I'd lean towards temporary disconnect.

 

57 minutes ago, Noel said:

I looked and sure enough was offline.

I didn't see any "you're offline" notifications. At least the ground textures were in online mode. I'm puzzled.

6 hours ago, avhpilot said:

Have you checked 'Buildings' ?

Yep, they are in Medium.

2 hours ago, Mace said:

Ok my NY looks normal / has buildings.  I run a 200 TLOD and 200 OLOD. 

Does this happen with photogrammetry on or off? As long as I have PG off, I have this problem.

 

 

Best regards,
Luis Hernández 20px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png

Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.

14 minutes ago, Luis Hernandez said:

Does this happen with photogrammetry on or off? As long as I have PG off, I have this problem.

I have photogrammetry on.

Rhett

7800X3D 96 GB G.Skill Flare  Gigabyte 4090  Crucial P5 Plus 2TB

10 hours ago, Luis Hernandez said:

I never used PG, but I didn't expect to exclude the autogen buildings until I was 2 NM away. Turning on PG and setting OLOD to 200 (the max available in my computer) helps a lot. As soon as I turn PG off, all buildings (but the Empire State) disappear.

Yup...that's actually normal if you are not using PG.  You appear to be 6-7 miles away from Manhattan in the photo so it makes sense.  It is unfortunate that the LOD cannot be extended much further.  PG also has issues with the melted buildings until you are pretty close.  Hope they can solve these issues in the next version of MSFS.....

Eric

i9-12900k, RTX 5070ti OC, 32GB ddr5 5600 RAM, 2TB 980 Pro SSD, Titan 240RX AIO, Samsung CRG90 49", Win 11

13 hours ago, Luis Hernandez said:

didn't see any "you're offline" notifications.

I didn't either, and this was the first time as well.

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

On 9/2/2023 at 7:28 AM, Luis Hernandez said:

A picture is worth a thousand words:

https://flic.kr/p/2oZq5nE

Only the Empire State? Is this normal? Setting both TLOD and OLOD to 200 won't help at all. Lower Manhattan gets back to normal just 2 NM away. Is it there a way to fix this?

I would recommend installing Samscene New York..  https://samscene.com/products/new-york-city-times-for-msfs

This gives you lots of handcrafted buildings that should all show up at the same time.

Combined with MSFS PG, it gives me the best look.

P1vHmFZ.jpg

Bert

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