Compared to an enthusiast sim user install of FSX (with addons), is there a list of what FS2020 still lacks or is addon unavailable?

From searching I can gather a few things: seasons, multiple window viewports and replay.

Just comprehensively trying to figure out, with 3 years of maturity, what's FS2020's status vs the old standbys (FSX/P3D).

Thanks.

18 minutes ago, VeryBumpy said:

Compared to an enthusiast sim user install of FSX (with addons), is there a list of what FS2020 still lacks or is addon unavailable?

From searching I can gather a few things: seasons, multiple window viewports and replay.

Just comprehensively trying to figure out, with 3 years of maturity, what's FS2020's status vs the old standbys (FSX/P3D).

Thanks.

It is leaps and bounds better than any other sim, both available today and in the past  . 

24 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

It is leaps and bounds better than any other sim, both available today and in the past  . 

Completely missing the point of the thread. 

5 minutes ago, chapstick said:

Completely missing the point of the thread. 

He asked what the status was compared to sims of the past, that is what I answered/  (Just comprehensively trying to figure out, with 3 years of maturity, what's FS2020's status vs the old standbys (FSX/P3D)

Edited September 9, 20232 yr by Bobsk8

I suspect he is interested in what is missing (or not yet up to standard) in MSFS 2020 when compared to the other sims.

1 hour ago, VeryBumpy said:

Just comprehensively trying to figure out, with 3 years of maturity, what's FS2020's status vs the old standbys (FSX/P3D).

The "status" vs the old standby's is very clear:  it's miles ahead of them when you consider the big picture, miles and miles and has been since the SDK opened up the sim to complex aircraft.  Yes, of course, there are some areas still missing some valued attributes that the other sims developed over some 25 years or so, but ultimately, they are minor, and we look for some of those to be addressed next year for the 2024 release.  Just MHO of course...

31 minutes ago, chapstick said:

Completely missing the point of the thread. 

Yes, thank you, looking for list of items per my main questions.

I am not missing a lot, but of the things that were in FSX and are not in MSFS2020:

• option to save a flight as default that will automatically be loaded in the sim at next start
• afcad
• replay
• FSpassengers
• Activesky

Many more probably, but do I really miss them? Not enough to go back anyway.

For the 25th time: there IS a very capable replay system in MSFS. It was not present at launch, but it was added almost two years ago. This replay system -- that has long-since been accessible in MSFS -- is the same built-in software that Asobo uses to generate their always-impressive trailers. You just need to enable the replay system and move it to the default dropdown menu.

1 minute ago, David Mills said:

For the 25th time: there IS a very capable replay system in MSFS. It was not present at launch, but it was added almost two years ago. This replay system -- that has long-since been accessible in MSFS -- is the same built-in software that Asobo uses to generate their always-impressive trailers. You just need to enable the replay system and move it to the default dropdown menu.

In the toolbar, replay is grayed out on my setup. How does one enable it? 

11 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

In the toolbar, replay is grayed out on my setup. How does one enable it? 

In that case, go to the Experimental Menu and toggle the Replay slider. It will then appear on the default menu. Personally, I believe that the replay system is overly complicated. But it's definitely there in all versions of the sim.

Edited September 9, 20232 yr by David Mills

MSFS 2020? Already much a thing of the past. 

MSFS 2024 is around the corner. 

There will always be stuff "missing". Even when MSFS 3050 is released. 

IMHO, look for stuff that's there and don't focus on what's "missing".

13 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

IMHO, look for stuff that's there and don't focus on what's "missing".

Eh, we've done that and given Asobo accolades (and money!) in recognition of what they did right with MSFS. We (and addon devs) have to push them to add what's needed to move it in the direction we want it to go. Asobo expects us to do that, which is why they have the whole wishlist/dev roadmap thing. There's nothing wrong with pointing out what's missing. 

FSX ? What is it ? Oh yeah, the sim I played 10 years ago and that I left then for P3D 😁.  Foggy past.

I miss the ability to pick up the right weather for the time of the day when I fly (wrongly labelled historical weather) and..,

57 minutes ago, David Mills said:

his replay system -- that has long-since been accessible in MSFS -- is the same built-in software that Asobo uses to generate their always-impressive trailers

This is the point, we have little use for a module made for software engineers. And the record/replay system of FSX and P3D was, if not perfect (it was not), easy to use. And you could do nice videos  too. 

it is weird that Asobo which has made the extra mile to make the sim (too much) compatible with the Xbox UI environment, cannot make a module where you push a button on your controller to record , push again to stop and save a clip. 
 

 

FSX? I miss the need to spend two weeks of simming time trying to tune my system to produce 25 frames per second with an acceptable level of detail. I miss the er…imaginative weather🤪.  I miss spending hours going down the rabbit hole of Process Lasso and all the other voodoo fixes that never quite work in the way they’re claimed to and I really miss spending all that extra cash on a big stack of CD’s to try and give the sim scenery I might vaguely recognise.