September 29, 20232 yr I'm aware that there are some of us that are not Discord fans and may not have seen this FAQ on the BeyondATC Discord site.. It contains some useful information and whilst it doesn't provide a price point it does explain how the chargiing mechanism will work. How much will BeyondATC cost? Our pricing model is still being determined, but at present we expect to sell BeyondATC for a base price which will include the full program and time for both Premium and Standard voice models. Each time a voice is generated using BeyondATC, time is used up from your voice total. If you need to top up your voice time, we will sell additional voice time in packages. We do this because the voice services being used cost money per request, and as such we cannot provide this as an ongoing free service. At present, it is NOT planned to sell BeyondATC as a subscription service. Which sims will BeyondATC support? BeyondATC will be available for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 & 2024 Will BeyondATC require an active internet connection? Yes, our voices use cloud-based technology and require an active connection to work. I'm new to Flight Sim, is BeyondATC for me? We're aiming to make BeyondATC accessible to seasoned pilots and newcomers alike. When will BeyondATC be released? With the addition of controlling aircraft, the scope of BeyondATC has expanded. As such, we are hoping for a 2024 release. Can I join the BeyondATC beta? Thanks for your interest in joining the beta! Our applications are now closed, but if we need more testers we'll be sure to let you know in our announcements section. Will BeyondATC support IFR and VFR flights? Yes! Will BeyondATC support Simbrief integration and Navigraph? Yes, we aim to make flight planning as easy as possible using BeyondATC so you can not worry about setup and get to flying. Will BeyondATC support dynamic SID and STAR selection? Yes, we pick the appropriate runways, SIDS and STARs based on the weather at the airports you're flying from and to. I hope this provides some useful information for those of us looking to purchase this. Cheers Terry Edited September 29, 20232 yr by Quaere Verum Forgot to add that the information was from the BeyondATC Discord site
September 29, 20232 yr Thanks, hadn't been on their Discord for a while. "Hoping for 2024" so not anytime soon, interested to see how they price their voice packages. G Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth" Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron
September 29, 20232 yr 31 minutes ago, Quaere Verum said: and time for both Premium and Standard voice models. Each time a voice is generated using BeyondATC, time is used up from your voice total Interesting, thanks. The voice quota seems not much aligned with the following: 32 minutes ago, Quaere Verum said: At present, it is NOT planned to sell BeyondATC as a subscription service Roland MSFS my local airport release: LFOR Chartres-Metropole MSFS Plugins RAAS (registered FSUIPC7 required) MSFS FX for Objects & Landmark in France (Steam and smoke) and Aerial coverage for French nuclear sites
September 29, 20232 yr Author Just now, roland_lfor said: Interesting, thanks. The voice quota seems not much aligned with the following: I agree Roland, seems almost contradictory.
September 29, 20232 yr Just now, Quaere Verum said: I agree Roland, seems almost contradictory. They are stating that the only money you will spend, after you purchase the program, is to pay for the extra data you use. That isn't a subscription.
September 29, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, roland_lfor said: Interesting, thanks. The voice quota seems not much aligned with the following: 5 minutes ago, Quaere Verum said: I agree Roland, seems almost contradictory. If you read the rest of the Q&A: "If you need to top up your voice time, we will sell additional voice time in packages." No subscription, just paying for more voice time when needed. Edited September 29, 20232 yr by Tuskin38
September 29, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Matchstick said: That's still a subscription just one that's usage not time based the action of making or agreeing to make an advance payment in order to receive or participate in something. "the newsletter is available only on subscription"
September 29, 20232 yr The question is: how much voice time is initially allocated? Roland MSFS my local airport release: LFOR Chartres-Metropole MSFS Plugins RAAS (registered FSUIPC7 required) MSFS FX for Objects & Landmark in France (Steam and smoke) and Aerial coverage for French nuclear sites
September 29, 20232 yr 23 minutes ago, Matchstick said: That's still a subscription just one that's usage not time based Though it's only for the 'Premium' voice sets. These are streamed from a provider at cost. AIUI, you can drop down to Microsoft David (or other such voice sets) if you don't want to pay for the better-sounding voices that BeyondATC is previewing. 17 minutes ago, roland_lfor said: The question is: how much voice time is initially allocated? Too soon to tell. It's been suggested that there will be enough voice time to keep all but the heaviest of users happy. Edited September 29, 20232 yr by F737MAX AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
September 29, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, F737MAX said: Though it's only for the 'Premium' voice sets. These are streamed from a provider at cost. AIUI, you can drop down to Microsoft David (or other such voice sets) if you don't want to pay for the better-sounding voices that BeyondATC is previewing. That's not the way the FAQ reads. The word both in "time for both Premium and Standard voice models" suggests your will be paying for any voice usage just presumably at a lower level for "Standard".
September 29, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Matchstick said: That's not the way the FAQ reads. The word both in "time for both Premium and Standard voice models" suggests your will be paying for any voice usage just presumably at a lower level for "Standard". That's the way I read it as well, would be good if you could use system voices in the same manner as p2atc but have the option to upgrade to higher levels. G Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth" Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron
September 29, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Matchstick said: That's still a subscription just one that's usage not time based No it isn't. Subscription has a specific definition that this doesn't meet. Please look up the definition of the word. Edited September 29, 20232 yr by Tuskin38
September 29, 20232 yr ... subscription.. not subscription.... Webster's definition of the word... Does it really matter? If this thing is as good as it sounds, is there really anyone that frequents these forums that isn't going sign up and pay for it anyway?
September 29, 20232 yr 28 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said: No it isn't. Subscription has a specific definition that this doesn't meet. Please look up the definition of the word. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/subscription an amount of money that you pay regularly to receive a product or service:
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